Jose Padilla indicted for conspiracy to commit a terrorist act. Padilla’s Case was about to go to the Supreme Court to have his status as an enemy combatant reviewed. Without a doubt the individual who was held, without being charged for three years, was charged because of the upcoming Supreme Court Review.
This individual originally made headlines as a “dirty bomb” suspect (I believe in Chicago). Dirty bombs are a technological impossibility. So we had a U.S. Citizen being held without charges in a navy Brig for three years for allegedly attempting an impossible act. The question is whether letting this case go too the Supreme Court would have been a good thing. With our new justice: which way would it go?
I think the Stare Decisis of “Ex Parte Milligan” would have won out. We need Habeas Corpus and if wartime is the justification then rebuttal is already in Ex Parte Milligan that eternal question: “If wartime is the justification for erosion of our constitutional rights then what the fuck reason is the war being fought for?” Certainly it is not being fought to defend our freedoms. Hopefully the logic contained in such a conundrum as well as the precedent of Ex Part Milligan should lend weight to the advantage of maintaining our rights.
On the other hand the risk that the Supreme Court would fail to check the executive’s unbridled power and create a lasting precedent for the suspension of habeas corpus. This is such a terrible outcome I am at some level relieved that the decision didn’t get to the Supreme Court, to allow the possibility of such a catastrophic blow to our civil liberties. After Bush v. Gore and the decisions on not making public the documents and conversations at Cheney’s NEPDG. The Supreme Court has become co-opted by the executive and there is a chance they would agree with the “enemy combatant” status argument concerning a U.S. citizen allegedly attempting a technologically impossible act. Here is my burning question:
“Does it have to get worse before it gets better?”
Is it:
1.Better to have the Supreme Court unmasked and decried for allowing the executive to become tyrannical; thus making it apparent to everyone that the checks and balances in stalled by our founders have collapsed.
OR
2.The executive be scared of judicial review thus providing marginal protection from the police state (One won’t be held for MORE than 3 years without being charged).
And of course there is a third possible eventuality which is far worse:
3. The Supreme Court agrees that suspension of Habeas Corpus is constitutional. They should make the corruption of the court obvious and the tyranny of the executive apparent, but most people just don’t care.
There is a strong possibility people will just ignore it.
Using terrorism to justify such a worldview and patriotism to justify apathy individuals will compartmentalize away the existence of the fascist police state that will have started ruling over us when Habeas Corpus is suspended.
Our state may have become tyrannical at the point it suspends Habeas Corpus and reverses Ex Parte Milligan.
Will such a debate emerge at the point this happens? Or will a PR blitz and the “mainstream media” help everyone forget the constitutional rights they had?
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Sunday, December 03, 2006
Excerpt from Crossing the Rubicon
From Crossing The Rubicon by Michael C. Ruppert
Page 111
“A colorful Congressional figure who publicly criticized “Rick” Inderfurth and who spent a great deal of time in Congress attempting to blame the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party for the ascendancy and seeming invulnerability of the Taliban is Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of Orange County, California…
Perhaps one of the greatest post-9/11 research discoveries is reported by Nafeez Ahmed in The war on Freedom ...
From Hearings on Global Terrorism and South Asia, held in the House Committee on International Relations, Washington, DC, July 12, 2000
‘REP. DANA ROHROABACHER: After a year of requesting to see State Department documents on Afghan policy-and I would remind the committee that I have- I have stated that I believe that there is a covert policy by this administration, a shameful covert policy of supporting the Taliban- the State Department, after many, many months- actually, years- of prodding, finally began giving me documents. Mr. Chairman. And I have, in the assessment of those documents, I have found nothing to persuade me that I was wrong in my criticism. And I might add, however, that there has been no documents provided to me, even after all these years of requesting it, there habe been no documents concerning the time period of the forming of the Taliban. And I would again, I would hope that the State Department gets the message that I expect to see all thsoe documents…And although the administration has denied supporting the Taliban, it is clear that they discouraged all of the anti-Taliban suppporters from supporting the efforts in Afghanistan, to defeat the Taliban. Even so much as when the Taliban was ripe fro bing defeated on the ground in Afghanistan, Bill Richardson and “Rick” Inderfurth, high-ranking members of thisa dministration, personally visited the region in order to discourage the Taliban’s opposition from attacking the Taliban…and then going to neighboring countries to cut off any type of military assistance to the [opponents of the] Taliban. This at a time when Pakistan was heavily resupplyinng and rearming the Taliban. What did theis lead to? It led to the defeat of all the Taliban’s major enemies except for one, Commander Massoud, in the north, and left the Taliban the supreme power in Afghanistan…[Massoud was assasinated by al Qaeda operatives posing as TV cameramen two days before the attacks on New York and Washington.]One last note. Many people here understand that I have been in Afghanistan on numerous occasions and have close ties to peple there. And let me just say that some of my sources of information informed me of where bin Laden was, they told me they knew and could tell people where bin Laden could be located. And it took me three times before this administration responded to someone who obviously had personal contacts in Afghanistan, to even investigate that there might be someone who could give them the information. And when my contact was actually contacted, they said that the people who contacted them were half-hearted, did not follow through, did not appear to be all that interested…’
Later the subject of discussion between committee members turned to who had been supplying the Taliban with weapons.
‘REP ROhRABACHER: (Laughing) This is a joke! I mean, you have to go to closed session to tell us where the weapons are coming from? Well, how about let’s make a choice. There’s Pakistan or Pakistan or Pakistan.(Laughs) Where do you think the Taliban- Right as we speak- I haven’t read any classified documents. Everybody in the region knows that Pakistan is involved with a massive supply of military weapons and has been since the beginning of the Taliban. Let me just state for the record, here, before I get into my questions, that I think there’s – and it’s not just you, Mr. Ambassador (Michael Sheehan, State Department Coordinator For Counterterrorism], but it is this administration and, perhaps, other administrations as well, I do not believe that terrorism flows from a lack of state control…Only the United States has given – and I again make this charge – the United States has been part and parcel to supporting the Taliban all along, and still is let me add…We have been supporting the Taliban, because all our aid goes to the Taliban areas. And when people from the outside try to put aid into areas not controlled by the Taliban, they are thwarted by our own State Department…Again, let me just – I am sorry Mr. Inderfurth is not here to defend himself – but let me state for the record: at at time when the Taliban were vulnerable, the top person of this administration, Mr. Inderfurth and Bill Richardson [Clinton Energy Secretary and now Governor of New Mexico] went to Afghanistan and convinced the anti-Taliban forces not to go on the offensive and, furthermore convinced all of the anti-Taliban forces, their supporters, to disarm them and to cease their flow of support for anti-Taliban forces.’
Rohrabacher’s Pique continued during an exchange with Deputy Assistant Secretary of State (Inderfurth’s assistant) Alan Eastham.
‘REP. ROHRABACHER: But the Taliban were included; except when happened right after all of thsoe other support systes that had been dismantled because of Mr. Inderfurth’s and Mr. Richardson’s appeal, and the State Department’s appeal? What happened immediately – not only immediately after, even while you were making that appeal what happened in Pakistan? Was there an airlift of supplies, military supplies, between Pakistan and Kabul and the forward elements of the Taliban forcecs?REP. ROHRABACHER: [answering his own question]: The answer is yes, I know. MR. EASTHAM: The answer is-REP. ROCHRABACHER: You can’t tell me because-MR. EASTHAM: The answer is-REP. ROHRABACHER: -it’s secret information.MR. EASTHAM: The answer is closed session. If you would like to dredge up that record. REP. ROHRABACHER: Well, I don’t have to go into closed session because I didn’t get aht information from any classified document… Mr. Inderfurth, Mr. Bill Richardson, a good freind of mine, doing the bidding of this administration, basically convinced the anti-Taliban mentors to quit providing them the weapons they needed, with some scheme the Taliban were then going to lay down their arms. And immediately thereafter, Pakistan started a massive shift of military supplies that resulted in the total defeat of the anti-Taliban forces… Why haven’t I been provided any documents about State Department analysis of- durin the formation period of the Taliban, about whehter or not the taliban was a good force or a bad force? Why have none of those documents reached my desk after two years?MR EASTHAM: The effort was to stop the support for all the factions.REP ROHRABACHER: That’s correct. You didn’t deny that we disarmed their opponents, you just said we were doing it with the Taliban as well, But as I pointed out, which you did not deny, the Taliban were immediately resupplied. Which means that we are part and parcel of disarming the victim, thinking htat hte aggressor was going to be disarmed as well, but it just didn’t work out- at the moment when Paksitan was arming them I might add.’”
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“Although his death was not announced until 15 September, Massood is believed to have died in the explosion of a bomb hidden in a camera held by one of the bogus “reporters.” His interpreter and personal assistant, Assem Suhail, was also killed. For nearly a week afterward, Massood’s aides managed to keep his death a secret, maintaining that he had merely been wounded, but that his condition was worsening. Meanwhile, they worked frantically to hold the alliance together while they chose his successor. There has been speculation that the timing of the assassination-<>two days before the catastrophic terror attacks in New York and Washington-was no accident. Shah’s death considerably weakened the Northern Alliance at a time when the Taliban was facing the prospect of American retaliatory strikes. The assassination of the Alliance’s best military mind thus helped to “level the playing field” between the two sides.”
cite
nada @ 05/27/06 14:54:01
“An August 27, 1997 cable in which U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Thomas Simons comments on Pakistan’s claim that its total aid to the Taliban through the end of 1996 had been only 20 million rupees (approximately one-half million dollars). Simons notes that this amount “did not include access to Pak wheat and POL (Note 1), or the trucks and buses full of adolescent mujahid crossing the frontier shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ and going into the line with a day or two of weapons training.” “That,” Simons’ noted, “was Pakistan’s real aid”
cite from GWU-NSA
POL=Petroleum, Oil, Lubricants
nada @ 05/27/06 14:55:23
”(REDACTERED PORTION) told me this AM that he is concerned that the GOP (ISI) is deeply involved in the Taleban take over in Kandahar and Qalat.”
“An Afghan contact in Dushanbe told me this AM that there is a Rabbani-ISI deal according to which Rabbani has agreed to an ISI move in to southern and western Afghanistan so long as it does not extend to a challenge of Ismail Khan in Herat. The thinking of this source is that Rabbani is exploiting the widening gulf between Gulbuddin and ISI -Growing out of ISI impression that Gulbuddin will be unable to move beyond the Kabul stalemate”
“One afghan asserts as fact involvement of Pak military with the Taleban and that old Khalqis are serving as enforcers in Kandahar. While many/most Afghan commanders would be contrained in condeming this alleged GOP intervention by virtue of their own dependence on Pakistan, there appears to be significant sentiment within the disapora against the GOP move”
Cite
GOP=Government of Pakistan(so it is important to note when it says GOP at the top of the document it quickly defines GOP as ISI in quotes, could be a fuck up, or it could imply whos truly running the country), or who their liason is.
And Khalqis are former members of one of the old parties pre-taleban Afghanistan.
nada @ 05/27/06 15:09:27
Page 111
“A colorful Congressional figure who publicly criticized “Rick” Inderfurth and who spent a great deal of time in Congress attempting to blame the Clinton administration and the Democratic Party for the ascendancy and seeming invulnerability of the Taliban is Republican Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of Orange County, California…
Perhaps one of the greatest post-9/11 research discoveries is reported by Nafeez Ahmed in The war on Freedom ...
From Hearings on Global Terrorism and South Asia, held in the House Committee on International Relations, Washington, DC, July 12, 2000
‘REP. DANA ROHROABACHER: After a year of requesting to see State Department documents on Afghan policy-and I would remind the committee that I have- I have stated that I believe that there is a covert policy by this administration, a shameful covert policy of supporting the Taliban- the State Department, after many, many months- actually, years- of prodding, finally began giving me documents. Mr. Chairman. And I have, in the assessment of those documents, I have found nothing to persuade me that I was wrong in my criticism. And I might add, however, that there has been no documents provided to me, even after all these years of requesting it, there habe been no documents concerning the time period of the forming of the Taliban. And I would again, I would hope that the State Department gets the message that I expect to see all thsoe documents…And although the administration has denied supporting the Taliban, it is clear that they discouraged all of the anti-Taliban suppporters from supporting the efforts in Afghanistan, to defeat the Taliban. Even so much as when the Taliban was ripe fro bing defeated on the ground in Afghanistan, Bill Richardson and “Rick” Inderfurth, high-ranking members of thisa dministration, personally visited the region in order to discourage the Taliban’s opposition from attacking the Taliban…and then going to neighboring countries to cut off any type of military assistance to the [opponents of the] Taliban. This at a time when Pakistan was heavily resupplyinng and rearming the Taliban. What did theis lead to? It led to the defeat of all the Taliban’s major enemies except for one, Commander Massoud, in the north, and left the Taliban the supreme power in Afghanistan…[Massoud was assasinated by al Qaeda operatives posing as TV cameramen two days before the attacks on New York and Washington.]One last note. Many people here understand that I have been in Afghanistan on numerous occasions and have close ties to peple there. And let me just say that some of my sources of information informed me of where bin Laden was, they told me they knew and could tell people where bin Laden could be located. And it took me three times before this administration responded to someone who obviously had personal contacts in Afghanistan, to even investigate that there might be someone who could give them the information. And when my contact was actually contacted, they said that the people who contacted them were half-hearted, did not follow through, did not appear to be all that interested…’
Later the subject of discussion between committee members turned to who had been supplying the Taliban with weapons.
‘REP ROhRABACHER: (Laughing) This is a joke! I mean, you have to go to closed session to tell us where the weapons are coming from? Well, how about let’s make a choice. There’s Pakistan or Pakistan or Pakistan.(Laughs) Where do you think the Taliban- Right as we speak- I haven’t read any classified documents. Everybody in the region knows that Pakistan is involved with a massive supply of military weapons and has been since the beginning of the Taliban. Let me just state for the record, here, before I get into my questions, that I think there’s – and it’s not just you, Mr. Ambassador (Michael Sheehan, State Department Coordinator For Counterterrorism], but it is this administration and, perhaps, other administrations as well, I do not believe that terrorism flows from a lack of state control…Only the United States has given – and I again make this charge – the United States has been part and parcel to supporting the Taliban all along, and still is let me add…We have been supporting the Taliban, because all our aid goes to the Taliban areas. And when people from the outside try to put aid into areas not controlled by the Taliban, they are thwarted by our own State Department…Again, let me just – I am sorry Mr. Inderfurth is not here to defend himself – but let me state for the record: at at time when the Taliban were vulnerable, the top person of this administration, Mr. Inderfurth and Bill Richardson [Clinton Energy Secretary and now Governor of New Mexico] went to Afghanistan and convinced the anti-Taliban forces not to go on the offensive and, furthermore convinced all of the anti-Taliban forces, their supporters, to disarm them and to cease their flow of support for anti-Taliban forces.’
Rohrabacher’s Pique continued during an exchange with Deputy Assistant Secretary of State (Inderfurth’s assistant) Alan Eastham.
‘REP. ROHRABACHER: But the Taliban were included; except when happened right after all of thsoe other support systes that had been dismantled because of Mr. Inderfurth’s and Mr. Richardson’s appeal, and the State Department’s appeal? What happened immediately – not only immediately after, even while you were making that appeal what happened in Pakistan? Was there an airlift of supplies, military supplies, between Pakistan and Kabul and the forward elements of the Taliban forcecs?REP. ROHRABACHER: [answering his own question]: The answer is yes, I know. MR. EASTHAM: The answer is-REP. ROCHRABACHER: You can’t tell me because-MR. EASTHAM: The answer is-REP. ROHRABACHER: -it’s secret information.MR. EASTHAM: The answer is closed session. If you would like to dredge up that record. REP. ROHRABACHER: Well, I don’t have to go into closed session because I didn’t get aht information from any classified document… Mr. Inderfurth, Mr. Bill Richardson, a good freind of mine, doing the bidding of this administration, basically convinced the anti-Taliban mentors to quit providing them the weapons they needed, with some scheme the Taliban were then going to lay down their arms. And immediately thereafter, Pakistan started a massive shift of military supplies that resulted in the total defeat of the anti-Taliban forces… Why haven’t I been provided any documents about State Department analysis of- durin the formation period of the Taliban, about whehter or not the taliban was a good force or a bad force? Why have none of those documents reached my desk after two years?MR EASTHAM: The effort was to stop the support for all the factions.REP ROHRABACHER: That’s correct. You didn’t deny that we disarmed their opponents, you just said we were doing it with the Taliban as well, But as I pointed out, which you did not deny, the Taliban were immediately resupplied. Which means that we are part and parcel of disarming the victim, thinking htat hte aggressor was going to be disarmed as well, but it just didn’t work out- at the moment when Paksitan was arming them I might add.’”
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“Although his death was not announced until 15 September, Massood is believed to have died in the explosion of a bomb hidden in a camera held by one of the bogus “reporters.” His interpreter and personal assistant, Assem Suhail, was also killed. For nearly a week afterward, Massood’s aides managed to keep his death a secret, maintaining that he had merely been wounded, but that his condition was worsening. Meanwhile, they worked frantically to hold the alliance together while they chose his successor. There has been speculation that the timing of the assassination-<>two days before the catastrophic terror attacks in New York and Washington-was no accident. Shah’s death considerably weakened the Northern Alliance at a time when the Taliban was facing the prospect of American retaliatory strikes. The assassination of the Alliance’s best military mind thus helped to “level the playing field” between the two sides.”
cite
nada @ 05/27/06 14:54:01
“An August 27, 1997 cable in which U.S. Ambassador to Pakistan Thomas Simons comments on Pakistan’s claim that its total aid to the Taliban through the end of 1996 had been only 20 million rupees (approximately one-half million dollars). Simons notes that this amount “did not include access to Pak wheat and POL (Note 1), or the trucks and buses full of adolescent mujahid crossing the frontier shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’ and going into the line with a day or two of weapons training.” “That,” Simons’ noted, “was Pakistan’s real aid”
cite from GWU-NSA
POL=Petroleum, Oil, Lubricants
nada @ 05/27/06 14:55:23
”(REDACTERED PORTION) told me this AM that he is concerned that the GOP (ISI) is deeply involved in the Taleban take over in Kandahar and Qalat.”
“An Afghan contact in Dushanbe told me this AM that there is a Rabbani-ISI deal according to which Rabbani has agreed to an ISI move in to southern and western Afghanistan so long as it does not extend to a challenge of Ismail Khan in Herat. The thinking of this source is that Rabbani is exploiting the widening gulf between Gulbuddin and ISI -Growing out of ISI impression that Gulbuddin will be unable to move beyond the Kabul stalemate”
“One afghan asserts as fact involvement of Pak military with the Taleban and that old Khalqis are serving as enforcers in Kandahar. While many/most Afghan commanders would be contrained in condeming this alleged GOP intervention by virtue of their own dependence on Pakistan, there appears to be significant sentiment within the disapora against the GOP move”
Cite
GOP=Government of Pakistan(so it is important to note when it says GOP at the top of the document it quickly defines GOP as ISI in quotes, could be a fuck up, or it could imply whos truly running the country), or who their liason is.
And Khalqis are former members of one of the old parties pre-taleban Afghanistan.
nada @ 05/27/06 15:09:27
Department of Pre-crime
bloombergNew York Times
From NY Times article:
“A police spokeswoman, Cpl. Michile Paradis, asked whether the group had actually had the three tons of chemicals in their possession, and if the police had ‘seized’ it, replied: ‘That’s difficult to answer. They made arrangements to have it delivered and they took delivery.’”
They cannot be charged with possession of these chemicals or actually engaging in a terrorist act.Instead the only thing they can feasibly be charged with is conspiracy. We will see what they actually are charged with.
Another from NY Times: “In court, he said, government lawyers broke with tradition and did not present a synopsis of the reasons for their chages, arguing that they had not had time to prepare it. It will, however, be presented at another hearing on Tuesday.”
Thats right you read correctly: Lawyers at a loss for words.So “the crown” has not charged these individuals with anything yet.The papers allude to “anti-terrorism” charges based on a law passed in 2001.
These individuals never engaged in a terrorist attack. We still do not know where this “3 tons of ammonium nitrate” is or if it even existed.We do not know if it did exist whether or not the RCMP used it to dangle in front of them in order to arrest them. All articles state that the RCMP and FBI were watching this group of peope who attend the mosque of Qayyum Abdul Jamal.
More from NY Times:”One senior counterterrorism official said there had been extensive contact between American and Canadian authorities in the past several days”
If the ammonium nitrate does exist and was sold by terrorists:Why the fuck did they bust a buncha students? They should be following that vein wherever it goes. 3 tons of ammonium nitrate! Who is selling that amount of explosives? The threat is obviously far worse than they’re letting on and why did they bust these people? When they did they ruined their opportunity to take down an illicit arms network that can actually fence and move 3 tons of ammonium nitrate!
If the ammonium nitrate does exist and was sold by RCMP/RBI:This is an example of entrapment, there is no evidence that these individuals would have sought explosives if they had not been offered and entrapped by undercover agents.
If the ammonium nitrate doesn’t exist:Then they’re being charged for something they could never have done. Maybe a conspiracy charge could stick, but anything else is ridiculous.
My main concern is that being charged with breaking an “anti-terrorist” law is basically a catch-all. This threatens every person in Canada, the US, and the rest of America.
This whole scenario reeks of set-up, which means they could have been entrapped or without undercover involvement they never would have attempted to procure explosives.
If its not a set-up then there is a massive illicit arms network that has been allowed to operate and move on unscathed. Which means we have put ourselves in greater danger by arresting the small fish for PR, when the real threat exists in the arms network
From NY Times article:
“A police spokeswoman, Cpl. Michile Paradis, asked whether the group had actually had the three tons of chemicals in their possession, and if the police had ‘seized’ it, replied: ‘That’s difficult to answer. They made arrangements to have it delivered and they took delivery.’”
They cannot be charged with possession of these chemicals or actually engaging in a terrorist act.Instead the only thing they can feasibly be charged with is conspiracy. We will see what they actually are charged with.
Another from NY Times: “In court, he said, government lawyers broke with tradition and did not present a synopsis of the reasons for their chages, arguing that they had not had time to prepare it. It will, however, be presented at another hearing on Tuesday.”
Thats right you read correctly: Lawyers at a loss for words.So “the crown” has not charged these individuals with anything yet.The papers allude to “anti-terrorism” charges based on a law passed in 2001.
These individuals never engaged in a terrorist attack. We still do not know where this “3 tons of ammonium nitrate” is or if it even existed.We do not know if it did exist whether or not the RCMP used it to dangle in front of them in order to arrest them. All articles state that the RCMP and FBI were watching this group of peope who attend the mosque of Qayyum Abdul Jamal.
More from NY Times:”One senior counterterrorism official said there had been extensive contact between American and Canadian authorities in the past several days”
If the ammonium nitrate does exist and was sold by terrorists:Why the fuck did they bust a buncha students? They should be following that vein wherever it goes. 3 tons of ammonium nitrate! Who is selling that amount of explosives? The threat is obviously far worse than they’re letting on and why did they bust these people? When they did they ruined their opportunity to take down an illicit arms network that can actually fence and move 3 tons of ammonium nitrate!
If the ammonium nitrate does exist and was sold by RCMP/RBI:This is an example of entrapment, there is no evidence that these individuals would have sought explosives if they had not been offered and entrapped by undercover agents.
If the ammonium nitrate doesn’t exist:Then they’re being charged for something they could never have done. Maybe a conspiracy charge could stick, but anything else is ridiculous.
My main concern is that being charged with breaking an “anti-terrorist” law is basically a catch-all. This threatens every person in Canada, the US, and the rest of America.
This whole scenario reeks of set-up, which means they could have been entrapped or without undercover involvement they never would have attempted to procure explosives.
If its not a set-up then there is a massive illicit arms network that has been allowed to operate and move on unscathed. Which means we have put ourselves in greater danger by arresting the small fish for PR, when the real threat exists in the arms network
Intro to the muslim brotherhood, or how i learned to stop worrying and love the ideology of the third reich
“What I’m doing today is doing what I’m doing now: I’m educating a new generation in the CIA that the Muslim Brotherhood was a fascist organization that was hired by Western Intelligence that evolved over time into what we today know as al Qaeda.”John Loftus, Former Deputy Attorney General Link
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“Numerous Islamic terrorist organizations, including al Qaeda, have their roots in The Muslim Brotherhood.”Homeland Security website, (removed from web). Cached link
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“In 1928, six Egyptian workers employed by British military camps in Isma’iliyya, in the Suez Canal Zone in Egypt, visited Hassan al-Banna, a young schoolteacher who they had heard preach in mosques and coffee-houses on the need for an Islamic rewnewal. “Arabs and Muslims have no status and no dignity,” they said. “They are no more than mere hirelings belonging to the foreigners…. We are unable to perceive the road to action as you perceive it….” They therefore asked him to become their leader; he accepted, founding the Society of the Muslim Brothers”The Society of the Muslim Brothers in Egypt: The Rise of an Islamic Mass Movement by Brynjar Lia; Carré, Olivier and Gérard Michaud. 1983. Les Frères musulmans : Egypte et Syrie (1928-1982). Paris: Gallimard.; Mitchell, Richard P. 1969. The Society of the Muslim Brothers. London: Oxford University Presslink)
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“Here’s how the story began. In the 1920’s there was a young Egyptian named al Bana. And al Bana formed this nationalist group called the Muslim Brotherhood. Al Bana was a devout admirer of Adolph Hitler and wrote to him frequently. So persistent was he in his admiration of the new Nazi Party that in the 1930’s, al Bana and the Muslim Brotherhood became a secret arm of Nazi Intelligence.
The Arab Nazis had much in common with the new Nazi doctrines. They hated Jews; they hated democracy; and they hated the Western culture. It became the official policy of the Third Reich to secretly develop the Muslim Brotherhood as the fifth Parliament, an army inside Egypt.”John Loftus, Former Deputy Attorney General Link
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Around 100,000 European Muslims fought for Hitler’s Germany in World War II. They included two Bosnian Muslim Waffen SS Divisions, an Albanian Waffen SS Division in Kosovo and Western Macedonia, the Waffengruppe der-SS Krim, formations consisting of Chechen Muslims from Chechnya, and other Muslim formations in Bosnia-Hercegovina.
Bosnian Muslims, who were in the Croatian pro-Nazi Ustasha, were especially brutal toward the Christian Serbs.
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“On October 26, 1954, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, attempted to kill Egypt’s second president Gamal Abdul Nasser . As a result, the organization was outlawed again and over 4000 of its members were imprisoned, including prominent member Sayyid QUTB, who became the most influential intellectual of the group, writing books in prison much like Hitler did before his rise to power.”Homeland Security Website Cache
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“What the British did then, they sold the Arab Nazis to the predecessor of what became the CIA. It may sound stupid; it may sound evil, but it did happen. The idea was that we were going to use the Arab Nazis in the Middle East as a counterweight to the Arab communists. Just as the Soviet Union was funding Arab communists, we would fund the Arab Nazis to fight against. And lots of secret classes took place. We kept the Muslim Brotherhood on our payroll.
But the Egyptians became nervous. Nasser ordered all of the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt or be imprisoned, and we would execute them all. During the 1950’s, the CIA evacuated the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia. Now when they arrived in Saudi Arabia, some of the leading lights of the Muslim Brotherhood like Azzam, became the teachers in the Madrasas, the religious schools. And there they combined the doctrines of Nazism with this weird Islamic cult, Wahhabiism.”John Loftus
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Peter Dale Scott Chapter VIII: Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment The then leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Sayed Kuttub, a man Faisal sponsored to undermine Nasser, openly admitted that during this period [the 1960s] ‘America made Islam.’
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“For the Saudis, there was a ruler in charge of Saudi Arabia, and they were the new home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and fascism and extremism were mingled in these schools. And there was a young student who paid attention – - and Azzam’s student was named Osama Bin Ladin. Osama Bin Ladin was taught by the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood who had emigrated to Saudi Arabia.
In 1979 the CIA decided to take the Arab Nazis out of cold storage. The Russians had invaded Afghanistan, so we told the Saudis that we would fund them if they would bring all of the Arab Nazis together and ship them off to Afghanistan to fight the Russians. We had to rename them. We couldn’t call them the Muslim Brotherhood because that was too sensitive a name. Its Nazi cast was too known. So we called them the Maktab al Khidimat il Mujahideen, the MAK.
And the CIA lied to Congress and said they didn’t know who was on the payroll in Afghanistan, except the Saudis. But it was not true. A small section CIA knew perfectly well that we had once again hired the Arab Nazis and that we were using them to fight our secret wars.
Azzam and his assistant, Osama Bin Ladin, rose to some prominence from 1979 to ‘89, and they won the war. They drove the Russians out of Afghanistan. Our CIA said, “We won, let’s go home!” and we left this army of Arab fascists in the field of Afghanistan.”-John Loftus
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Peter Dale Scott Chapter VIII: Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment :‘What is slowly emerging from Al Qaeda activities in Central Asia in the 1990s is the extent to which they have acted in the interests of both American oil companies and the U.S. government In one way or another, Americans in the 1990s cooperated with al Qaeda terrorists in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan and Kosovo. In other countries, notably Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Georgia, al Qaeda terrorists have provided pretexts or opportunities for a U.S. military commitment and even troops to follow.’
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“Osama Bin Ladin’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came from the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the results of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
There are many flavors and branches, but they are all Muslim Brotherhoods. There is one in Israel. The organization you know as “Hammas” is actually a secret chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood. When Israel assassinated Sheik Yassin a month ago, the Muslim Brotherhood published his obituary in a Cairo newspaper in Arabic and revealed that he was actually the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza.”-John Loftus
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“The al Qaeda Doctrine is the same as the Arab Nazis held. They hated Jews, they hate democracy, and they hate Westerners for Western culture. Al Qaeda is nothing more than the religious expression of Arab Fascism. We allowed this branch of the Nazi trunk to survive, to flourish, and it has come back to haunt us.”-John Loftus (emphasis mine)
“When one considers the principles that guide the constitutional system of government, one finds that such principles aim to preserve in all its forms the freedom of the individual citizen, to make the rulers accountable for their actions to the people and finally, to delimit the prerogatives of every single authoritative body. It will be clear to everyone that such basic principles correspond perfectly to the teaching of Islam concerning the system of government. For this reason, the Muslim Brothers consider that of all the existing systems of government, the constitutional system is the form that best suits Islam and Muslims.”-Al-Banna, founder of the muslim brotherhood link)
“In an very impressive research effort into the early years of the Muslim Brothers, Lia (a Norwegian scholar) relies on new sources and deep knowledge of his subject to show convincingly just how well that movement does fit the new interpretation. He establishes that it organized in ways novel for Egypt and mobilized elements of the population hitherto neglected. But its greatest importance lay in developing an answer to the rampant European ideologies of the 1930s: in this, the Muslim Brothers began “a lasting process of renewal … in which religion was related to the modern age and all aspects of modern life.” With justification, Lia concludes that the Muslim Brothers’ “reinterpretation of Islam will remain the most far-reaching Islamic renewal this century.””link
There is a body of writing that basically perceives the muslim brotherhood as an innocuous “arab socialist” group.
Qutb developed his distinctive ideas after the Egyptian Ministry of Education, for which he worked as an official, sent him to the USA in 1948-51 to study American methods of schooling. He returned to Egypt with an uncompromising hatred for the West and all its works. Qutb’s rejection of the West was not that of the conservative concerned with preserving his culture’s traditions against foreign encroachments, but rather that of the ‘born-again Muslim’ who having adopted or absorbed many modern influences makes a show of discarding them in his search for personal identity and cultural authenticity. After his arrest, Qutb wrote his famous work, Signposts, which is the first clear statement of the aims and worldview of the sects we now think of as Islamist, and is required reading for the cadre of these groups. Qutb defined the regime itself as part of the ‘infidel’ problem. Society was divided into the Party of God and the Party of Satan. The Islamist movement was surrounded by a swamp of ignorance and unbelief (jahiliyya, the term used to describe the society of Arabia before the coming of Muhammed). The creation of an Islamic government was not just a culturally preferable alternative, but a divine imperative. The method of creating it would be jihad, or holy war. (For some Muslims, jihad can mean private spiritual striving, but for Islamist groups it increasingly means, very literally, war.) It is unclear if Qutb himself would have wholeheartedly approved of the modern groups who claim his legacy; but he spelled out the main themes of modern militant Islamism.
“Mitchell was well-informed through his personal contacts with prominent Brothers, and was also the first Western scholar to draw heavily on Arabic sources. Mitchell, like many others of his time, believed that the Society had been finally suppressed in 1954, by which time all its leaders had been jailed or executed. In 1968, he believed that ‘the essentially secular reform nationalism ƒ in vogue in the Arab world would continue until the earlier appeal of the Society eventually is lost’ (Mitchell, p.xxiii-xxiv). And, indeed, in the 1960s, such a conclusion was fully in accord with all observable political and social realities. However, in the 1970s and ‘80s, the situation changed dramatically and, in the 1990s, analysts were agreeing that ‘Islamic activism will be a major feature of regional politics into the 21st century’ (Robin Wright, quot. in Voll, J.O. Foreword, in Mitchell (1993), p.x.). Consequently this timely (1993) reissue of Mitchell’s classic work incorporates a foreword by leading US Islamic scholar John Voll discussing the subsequent history and continued significance of the Society.”link
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Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966), the Egyptian ideologue of modern Islamism and a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, was one of the first to combine the two strands. His writings have been read by millions of Muslims around the world and have been a major influence in the development of contemporary Muslim anti-Semitism. Qutb used racist stereotypes and forgeries of Western anti-Semitism such as the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” (translated into Arabic and widely distributed in the Muslim world) [7] . As a result, Islamism today sees itself involved in a cosmic struggle against “the Jews” which has to fought to the bitter end: “Therefore the struggle between Islam and the Jews continues in force and will continue, because the Jews will be satisfied only with the destruction of this religion (Islam).” [8] For Qutb, modern-day Jews are identical to their forefathers at the time of Muhammad, who “confronted Islam with Enmity from the moment that the Islamic state was established in Medina. They plotted against the Muslim Community from the first day it became a Community.” [9] Since then, says Qutb, all Jews have always been wicked enemies of Islam, and contemporary Islam is attacked by the very same Jews using the same “machinations and double dealings which discomfited the Early Muslims . . . The Jews continue – through their wickedness and double-dealing – to lead this (Muslim) community away from its religion and to alienate it from its Qur’an” [10] . Qutb argues that Jews are inherently evil because all through the ages they have rebelled against God “in the most disgustingly aggressive manner . . .”. As a result: “From such creatures who kill, massacre and defame prophets one can only expect the spilling of human blood and dirty means which would further their machinations and evilness.” According to Qutb, Jews are characterized by ingratitude, selfishness, fanaticism and hatred for all others. They foment dissension in their host societies and exploit all disasters to profit from the misery of others. They also utilize usury to accumulate wealth, infiltrate societies, and dominate the whole world
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“Numerous Islamic terrorist organizations, including al Qaeda, have their roots in The Muslim Brotherhood.”Homeland Security website, (removed from web). Cached link
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“In 1928, six Egyptian workers employed by British military camps in Isma’iliyya, in the Suez Canal Zone in Egypt, visited Hassan al-Banna, a young schoolteacher who they had heard preach in mosques and coffee-houses on the need for an Islamic rewnewal. “Arabs and Muslims have no status and no dignity,” they said. “They are no more than mere hirelings belonging to the foreigners…. We are unable to perceive the road to action as you perceive it….” They therefore asked him to become their leader; he accepted, founding the Society of the Muslim Brothers”The Society of the Muslim Brothers in Egypt: The Rise of an Islamic Mass Movement by Brynjar Lia; Carré, Olivier and Gérard Michaud. 1983. Les Frères musulmans : Egypte et Syrie (1928-1982). Paris: Gallimard.; Mitchell, Richard P. 1969. The Society of the Muslim Brothers. London: Oxford University Presslink)
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“Here’s how the story began. In the 1920’s there was a young Egyptian named al Bana. And al Bana formed this nationalist group called the Muslim Brotherhood. Al Bana was a devout admirer of Adolph Hitler and wrote to him frequently. So persistent was he in his admiration of the new Nazi Party that in the 1930’s, al Bana and the Muslim Brotherhood became a secret arm of Nazi Intelligence.
The Arab Nazis had much in common with the new Nazi doctrines. They hated Jews; they hated democracy; and they hated the Western culture. It became the official policy of the Third Reich to secretly develop the Muslim Brotherhood as the fifth Parliament, an army inside Egypt.”John Loftus, Former Deputy Attorney General Link
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Hitler and Mohammad Amin al-Husayni
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Mohammad Amin al-Husayni inspecting his SS
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Around 100,000 European Muslims fought for Hitler’s Germany in World War II. They included two Bosnian Muslim Waffen SS Divisions, an Albanian Waffen SS Division in Kosovo and Western Macedonia, the Waffengruppe der-SS Krim, formations consisting of Chechen Muslims from Chechnya, and other Muslim formations in Bosnia-Hercegovina.
Bosnian Muslims, who were in the Croatian pro-Nazi Ustasha, were especially brutal toward the Christian Serbs.
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“On October 26, 1954, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood, Abdul Munim Abdul Rauf, attempted to kill Egypt’s second president Gamal Abdul Nasser . As a result, the organization was outlawed again and over 4000 of its members were imprisoned, including prominent member Sayyid QUTB, who became the most influential intellectual of the group, writing books in prison much like Hitler did before his rise to power.”Homeland Security Website Cache
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“What the British did then, they sold the Arab Nazis to the predecessor of what became the CIA. It may sound stupid; it may sound evil, but it did happen. The idea was that we were going to use the Arab Nazis in the Middle East as a counterweight to the Arab communists. Just as the Soviet Union was funding Arab communists, we would fund the Arab Nazis to fight against. And lots of secret classes took place. We kept the Muslim Brotherhood on our payroll.
But the Egyptians became nervous. Nasser ordered all of the Muslim Brotherhood out of Egypt or be imprisoned, and we would execute them all. During the 1950’s, the CIA evacuated the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood to Saudi Arabia. Now when they arrived in Saudi Arabia, some of the leading lights of the Muslim Brotherhood like Azzam, became the teachers in the Madrasas, the religious schools. And there they combined the doctrines of Nazism with this weird Islamic cult, Wahhabiism.”John Loftus
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Peter Dale Scott Chapter VIII: Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment The then leader of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood, Sayed Kuttub, a man Faisal sponsored to undermine Nasser, openly admitted that during this period [the 1960s] ‘America made Islam.’
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“For the Saudis, there was a ruler in charge of Saudi Arabia, and they were the new home of the Muslim Brotherhood, and fascism and extremism were mingled in these schools. And there was a young student who paid attention – - and Azzam’s student was named Osama Bin Ladin. Osama Bin Ladin was taught by the Nazis of the Muslim Brotherhood who had emigrated to Saudi Arabia.
In 1979 the CIA decided to take the Arab Nazis out of cold storage. The Russians had invaded Afghanistan, so we told the Saudis that we would fund them if they would bring all of the Arab Nazis together and ship them off to Afghanistan to fight the Russians. We had to rename them. We couldn’t call them the Muslim Brotherhood because that was too sensitive a name. Its Nazi cast was too known. So we called them the Maktab al Khidimat il Mujahideen, the MAK.
And the CIA lied to Congress and said they didn’t know who was on the payroll in Afghanistan, except the Saudis. But it was not true. A small section CIA knew perfectly well that we had once again hired the Arab Nazis and that we were using them to fight our secret wars.
Azzam and his assistant, Osama Bin Ladin, rose to some prominence from 1979 to ‘89, and they won the war. They drove the Russians out of Afghanistan. Our CIA said, “We won, let’s go home!” and we left this army of Arab fascists in the field of Afghanistan.”-John Loftus
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Peter Dale Scott Chapter VIII: Al Qaeda and the U.S. Establishment :‘What is slowly emerging from Al Qaeda activities in Central Asia in the 1990s is the extent to which they have acted in the interests of both American oil companies and the U.S. government In one way or another, Americans in the 1990s cooperated with al Qaeda terrorists in Afghanistan, Azerbaijan and Kosovo. In other countries, notably Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Georgia, al Qaeda terrorists have provided pretexts or opportunities for a U.S. military commitment and even troops to follow.’
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“Osama Bin Ladin’s second in command, Ayman al-Zawahiri, came from the Egyptian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, the results of a Palestinian Islamic Jihad.
There are many flavors and branches, but they are all Muslim Brotherhoods. There is one in Israel. The organization you know as “Hammas” is actually a secret chapter of the Muslim Brotherhood. When Israel assassinated Sheik Yassin a month ago, the Muslim Brotherhood published his obituary in a Cairo newspaper in Arabic and revealed that he was actually the secret leader of the Muslim Brotherhood in Gaza.”-John Loftus
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“The al Qaeda Doctrine is the same as the Arab Nazis held. They hated Jews, they hate democracy, and they hate Westerners for Western culture. Al Qaeda is nothing more than the religious expression of Arab Fascism. We allowed this branch of the Nazi trunk to survive, to flourish, and it has come back to haunt us.”-John Loftus (emphasis mine)
“When one considers the principles that guide the constitutional system of government, one finds that such principles aim to preserve in all its forms the freedom of the individual citizen, to make the rulers accountable for their actions to the people and finally, to delimit the prerogatives of every single authoritative body. It will be clear to everyone that such basic principles correspond perfectly to the teaching of Islam concerning the system of government. For this reason, the Muslim Brothers consider that of all the existing systems of government, the constitutional system is the form that best suits Islam and Muslims.”-Al-Banna, founder of the muslim brotherhood link)
“In an very impressive research effort into the early years of the Muslim Brothers, Lia (a Norwegian scholar) relies on new sources and deep knowledge of his subject to show convincingly just how well that movement does fit the new interpretation. He establishes that it organized in ways novel for Egypt and mobilized elements of the population hitherto neglected. But its greatest importance lay in developing an answer to the rampant European ideologies of the 1930s: in this, the Muslim Brothers began “a lasting process of renewal … in which religion was related to the modern age and all aspects of modern life.” With justification, Lia concludes that the Muslim Brothers’ “reinterpretation of Islam will remain the most far-reaching Islamic renewal this century.””link
There is a body of writing that basically perceives the muslim brotherhood as an innocuous “arab socialist” group.
Qutb developed his distinctive ideas after the Egyptian Ministry of Education, for which he worked as an official, sent him to the USA in 1948-51 to study American methods of schooling. He returned to Egypt with an uncompromising hatred for the West and all its works. Qutb’s rejection of the West was not that of the conservative concerned with preserving his culture’s traditions against foreign encroachments, but rather that of the ‘born-again Muslim’ who having adopted or absorbed many modern influences makes a show of discarding them in his search for personal identity and cultural authenticity. After his arrest, Qutb wrote his famous work, Signposts, which is the first clear statement of the aims and worldview of the sects we now think of as Islamist, and is required reading for the cadre of these groups. Qutb defined the regime itself as part of the ‘infidel’ problem. Society was divided into the Party of God and the Party of Satan. The Islamist movement was surrounded by a swamp of ignorance and unbelief (jahiliyya, the term used to describe the society of Arabia before the coming of Muhammed). The creation of an Islamic government was not just a culturally preferable alternative, but a divine imperative. The method of creating it would be jihad, or holy war. (For some Muslims, jihad can mean private spiritual striving, but for Islamist groups it increasingly means, very literally, war.) It is unclear if Qutb himself would have wholeheartedly approved of the modern groups who claim his legacy; but he spelled out the main themes of modern militant Islamism.
“Mitchell was well-informed through his personal contacts with prominent Brothers, and was also the first Western scholar to draw heavily on Arabic sources. Mitchell, like many others of his time, believed that the Society had been finally suppressed in 1954, by which time all its leaders had been jailed or executed. In 1968, he believed that ‘the essentially secular reform nationalism ƒ in vogue in the Arab world would continue until the earlier appeal of the Society eventually is lost’ (Mitchell, p.xxiii-xxiv). And, indeed, in the 1960s, such a conclusion was fully in accord with all observable political and social realities. However, in the 1970s and ‘80s, the situation changed dramatically and, in the 1990s, analysts were agreeing that ‘Islamic activism will be a major feature of regional politics into the 21st century’ (Robin Wright, quot. in Voll, J.O. Foreword, in Mitchell (1993), p.x.). Consequently this timely (1993) reissue of Mitchell’s classic work incorporates a foreword by leading US Islamic scholar John Voll discussing the subsequent history and continued significance of the Society.”link
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Sayyid Qutb (1906-1966), the Egyptian ideologue of modern Islamism and a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, was one of the first to combine the two strands. His writings have been read by millions of Muslims around the world and have been a major influence in the development of contemporary Muslim anti-Semitism. Qutb used racist stereotypes and forgeries of Western anti-Semitism such as the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” (translated into Arabic and widely distributed in the Muslim world) [7] . As a result, Islamism today sees itself involved in a cosmic struggle against “the Jews” which has to fought to the bitter end: “Therefore the struggle between Islam and the Jews continues in force and will continue, because the Jews will be satisfied only with the destruction of this religion (Islam).” [8] For Qutb, modern-day Jews are identical to their forefathers at the time of Muhammad, who “confronted Islam with Enmity from the moment that the Islamic state was established in Medina. They plotted against the Muslim Community from the first day it became a Community.” [9] Since then, says Qutb, all Jews have always been wicked enemies of Islam, and contemporary Islam is attacked by the very same Jews using the same “machinations and double dealings which discomfited the Early Muslims . . . The Jews continue – through their wickedness and double-dealing – to lead this (Muslim) community away from its religion and to alienate it from its Qur’an” [10] . Qutb argues that Jews are inherently evil because all through the ages they have rebelled against God “in the most disgustingly aggressive manner . . .”. As a result: “From such creatures who kill, massacre and defame prophets one can only expect the spilling of human blood and dirty means which would further their machinations and evilness.” According to Qutb, Jews are characterized by ingratitude, selfishness, fanaticism and hatred for all others. They foment dissension in their host societies and exploit all disasters to profit from the misery of others. They also utilize usury to accumulate wealth, infiltrate societies, and dominate the whole world
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Autobiographical Masturbation, or intro to the intro to the muslim brotherhood
I first learned of the Muslim Brotherhood from Hicks’ book The Big Wedding which I suggest for any individual who wants to take a look at some seedier stories surrounding September 11th. He does some great research and interviewing of individuals who could be considered “less credible” so you have to take it with much salt. Fortunately Hicks’ has what appears to be an incisive mind and helps cut through a lot of the bullshit. He lets you know the guy he is talking to is shady and he does one thing that makes me respect him as a writer. As Buck 65 says “I never underestimate the audience’s intelligence” Hicks’ did not do this with “The Big Wedding”. Instead he compressed a vast breadth and depth of facts in to a well written tool for the information guerrilla which can fit in your back pocket.
I remember a time when I did not “believe” that individuals within our own government would possibly engage in an activity such as 9/11. The pure audacity of it for one thing, how could they get away with it, and why would they risk their power?
Before I really delved in to the historical investigation of this event. I already knew and “believed” that these events would be manipulated by the individuals in power, regardless of party or position, to further their own subjective goals. It even seemed highly plausible that there was negligence and incompetence. But…foreknowledge? Culpability? Such conclusions seemed farfetched.
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I opened my eyes to hear the scream of the telephone on the floor of my dormitory. My girlfriend rolled out of bed and walked around the divider between my “bedroom” to the outside of e-suite. It was the largest room on campus that a single person occupied, somehow I had managed to get out of having a roommate. “Hello” She asked in to the receiver.I rolled over pressing my eyes shut hoping to fall asleep quickly. Hoping that if I fell asleep quickly it would somehow delay the alarm on my watch that stared down at me from the window sill. The whole area glowed with a piercing blindness from the morning sun, which made it impossible to see the time it read without committing myself completely to lucidity and consciousness-“A Plane Did What?!” She stated incredulously.-my eyebrow raised slightly as the aural stimuli from the next room reached my brain. I gave it a small percentage of my conscious attention. That is to say I dedicated what little I could spare as long as I could remain somewhat asleep.
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The TV turned on. She kicked the reel from my Dreamcast’s Bass Fishing game and sent it skipping over discarded trash and empty beer cans along the floor. “oh my god. nada, wake up, come here!”The tone of her voice and the attention I had dedicated so far told me this was more important than my chronic morning infatuation with sleep.
I stepped in to the room and rubbing my eyes stared at the television. A smoking building. Where? “A plane flew in to a building.” She stated matter-of-factly. “Wow, now that is a drunk pilot.” I let out as I collapsed on the couch next to her.
Then the channels that seemed like they had only just appeared in the 2000 elections took charge of the oversight for my stimuli consumption. The 24-propaganda disseminators which would be telling us what issues to think about and what their corporate owners subjectively define “normativity” as.
I was smirking when it happened.
The “journalists” came from every direction “literally crawling out of little holes in the ground” pointing their cameras and giving live feeds. Every single aircraft that would fly by within sight would be videotaped. While following the path of said aircraft the “journalist” will make statements which in general look like these:“oh no, here comes another plane right now!”“uh oh, we got a plane coming in hold on!”“OH! OH! watch out! plane!”Every “journalist” wanted to be the one who saw and pointed out the death and destruction first. This was award time and they couldn’t have been happier.
I was smirking when it happened.
BOOM!!!!!
All day they “speculated”. All day my friends and I just pointed out the bullshit that was being called “the news”. Everyone in the country was watching it. Everyone in the country saw the replay over and over. Every single subjective entity in this country was force-fed the same overwhelmingly traumatizing imagery and then spoon-fed bullshit for the next few weeks.
I didn’t know what to fully make of it, but the thought of collusion never crossed my mind.
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..It was a while before I got back to Chicago. My friend and I went to see the Atmosphere, Eyedea and Abilities, Mr. Dibbs, and Sage Francis show at the Fireside. The fireside is gone now, but it was a broken down bowling alley with the bar still intact. Not the greatest of venues, but it had been the purveyor of many an epic punk and hip-hop show.
The ceiling kept coming off in pieces on the artists, the legs of the table for the decks were wobbly, and the worst part: every once in awhile the mic would cut off.It was a fun atmosphere(no pun intended) the artists made fun of the crowd for not hearing of any of them but Eyedea, because he was on the HBO blaze battle. Freestyling incorporating the general shittiness of the venue in their rhymes.Lots of energy, great music, and light hearted response to the ceiling collapsing on them.
In general a great show.
I had never heard of Sage Francis, except for I understood he was on the ticket for the show. So I was skeptical when he got on stage and launched in to a spoken word session. I’m not a huge fan of spoken word, but what can make it even harder to deal with spoken word is when the mic keeps getting cut off. A few songs in to his set he pulls a necktie out of his pocket.
“This is something that’s gonna be on the next album” he said as he put the necktie on.
And belted it out:“Makeshift patriot the flagshop is out of stock/I hang myself at half mastMakeshift patriot the flagshop is out of stock/I hang myself at half mastComing live from my own funeral, beautiful weather offered a nice shineWhich is suitable for a full view of a forever altered skylineWhen times like these arrive I freestyle biased opinions every other sentence Journalistic ethics slip when I pass them off as objective “Don’t give me that ethical shit.” I’ve got exclusive, explicit images to present to impressionable American kids And it’s time to show this world how big our edifice is! That’s exactly what they attacked when a typically dark skinned Disney villain Used civilians against civilians and charged the Trojan horses into our buildings Using commercial aviation as instruments of destruction Pregnant women couldn’t protect their children Wheelchairs were stairway obstructions Now have to back pedal…from the shower of glass and metal Wondering how after it all settles we’ll find who provided power to radical rebels The Melting Pot seems to be calling the kettle black when it boils over But only on our own soil so the little boy holds a toy soldier.. And waits for the suit and tie to come home. We won’t wait ‘til he’s older before we destroy his hopes for a colder war to end “Now get a close up of his head” Makeshift PatriotThe Flag Shop Is Out of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast ”How does my hair look” Makeshift Patriot The Flag Shop Is Out of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast “Run that tape back” Makeshift Patriot The Flag Shop Is Out Of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast “It Looks just like a movie” It’s the make shift The patriot The Flag Shop is Out of Stock I hang myself “while the stock markets crash” The city is covered in inches of muck I see some other pictures of victims are up Grieving mothers are thinking their children are stuck Leaping lovers are making decisions to jump While holding hands…to escape the brutal heat Sometimes in groups of three The fall out was far beyond the toxic cloud where people look like debris But all they saw after all was said…beyond the talking heads Was the bloody dust with legs looking like the walking dead calling for meds but Hospitals are overwhelmed. Volunteers need to go the hell home Moments of silence for fire fighters were interrupted by cell phones Who’s gonna to make that call to increase an unknown death toll? It’s the one we rally behind He’s got a megaphone…and he’s promising to make heads roll we cheer him on, but asbestos is affecting our breath control The lesser we know…the more they fabricate…the easier it is to sell souls There is a new price on freedom, so buy into it while supplies last. Changes need to be made;No more curbside baggage,Seven pm curfew,Racial profiling will continue with less bitching.We’ve unified over who to kill, so until I find more relevant scripture to quote,Remember, our god is bigger, stronger, smarter, and much wealthier. So wave those flags with pride, especially the white part. We’re sellin’ addictive 24 hour candle light vigils on TV’s Freedom will be defended…at the cost of civil liberties The viewers are glued to television screens Stuck… cause lots of things seem too sick I use opportunities to pluck heart strings for theme music I’ll show you which culture to pump your fist at, which foot is right to kiss we don’t really know who the culprit is yet…but he looks. Like. This. we know who the heroes are. They’re not the xenophobes who act hard “We taught that dog to squat, how dare he do that shit in our own back yard!” They happened to scar our financial state and char our landscape Can you count how many times so far I’ve ran back this same damn tape? While a camera man creates news and shoves it down our throats on the West Bank With a ten second clip put on constant loop to provoke US angst So get your tanks and load your guns and hold your sons in a family huddle ’cause even if we win this tug of war and even the score…humanity struggles There’s a desperate need of blood for what’s been uncovered under the rubble Some of them dug for answers in the mess…but the rest were looking for trouble”
As he approached the climax of the song he pulled upwards on his necktie, until it had transformed fully in to a noose.
Great show, but pretty melodramatic was my impression. But those lyrics… those lyrics.
“Now I have to back pedal…from the shower of glass and metal Wondering how after it all settles we’ll find who provided power to radical rebels”
“We cheer him on, but asbestos is affecting our breath controlThe lesser we know, The more they fabricate, the easier it is to sell souls”
Then finally one that would reveal its meaning later:“There’s a desperate need of blood for what’s been uncovered under the rubble Some of them dug for answers in the mess…but the rest were looking for trouble”.
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.Got my hands on a laptop a few years later. My friend explained to me that he discovered something called “Torrents” which was a (so far) legal peer-to-peer file sharing system. It worked so quickly that you could download movies. Well I soon found out that getting movies that people didn’t want you to have were actually harder to get. On the other hand movies that people wanted others to see were easy. That is how I filled a 100gb mp3 player with documentaries. I didn’t discriminate and found a wealth of movies concerned with things considered “propaganda” like global conspiracies and secret societies. I had always read a little here and there on the general ideas. Esotericism, dispensationalism, and Masonic myth. The Man Who Would Be King is what piqued my interest in Masonic mythology(which obviously started out as a Rudyard Kipling book[who authored the mythologies on animal origins which I used to love]).
But most movies that centered around simply proving an “illuminati” were boring as fuck and ridiculously slanted. These movies were doing one thing consistently: Underestimating the audience’s intelligence.
To believe a single secret society presided over all events of historical significance without a single internal revolution or political-infighting is naïve to say the least.
But, to create a movie with the purpose of making a person believe a single secret society presided over all events of historical significance without a single internal revolution or political-infighting is going to be rife with manipulations, because it is not possible to conclude such a massive thing without first properly understanding the preponderance of evidence and secondly dwelling on the evidence.
For the most part I didn’t really get through any of those movies. The reason I mention them is, because in order to get to the juicy part I had to cut the gristle and the fat out. Just because you have to sit through Alex Jones yelling about the illuminati, does not mean that the citations he offers are any less credible, because of it. You can always disagree with a person’s conclusion, but facts are facts.
But also mythology is interesting and comedic, it is funny to see how David Icke views the world. Not funny like “what a sad person” but funny like “what a different perspective”.
So after watching some random conspiracist movie they mentioned 911 and I wrote down the citation. I realized I liked the 911 information, but I do not “believe” there was a conspiracy or direct culpability. I only “believed” at the most there was negligence.
So I downloaded a plethora of 911 based documentaries, still really only for the novelty of seeing where this mythology of a Bavarian secret society running things would say about 911.
I would leave them on while I played Halo 2 with a friend of mine. Dedicating just as much attention as I could without hurting my performance in the game.
I learned I couldn’t stand Alex Jones very quickly. The constant yelling, the cheesy graphics, and the delusions of grandeur just got to me and I found myself fast-forwarding a lot. What I mean by delusions of grandeur is in fact a symptom of schizophrenia and a belief in your own greatness. It embraces the mythological archetype of Odysseus and is not a shortcut to happiness. Labeling others as “sheep” constantly is an effort to condition a person with the stimuli that people who aren’t illuminati acolytes are less than human. This is what Jones does by constantly referring to “outsiders” as sheep. He teaches you that there is no one else to trust and he teaches you that believing in him is superior. Not only that but this dehumanization is a psychological precursor to war, genocide, and murder to dehumanize the enemy.
Well I kept track of what little citations he offered despite my personal distaste for his style. I quickly developed a favorite movie, essentially the one I could watch more than once.
It was called “The Truth and Lies of 911”. It started with a clip of some guy giving shit to CIA director John Deutch in a public hearing about drug smuggling operations that were being overseen by the CIA. It had this guy Peter Dale Scott in it who has written extensively on drugs, oil, and war . Most importantly though it had more citations than you could shake a stick at.
The one thing I noticed about Ruppert is he didn’t tell you his conclusion. His conclusion remains mired in mystery throughout the film and on his website. It was not peak oil that needed to convince me what the Iraq war was fought over. Just ask Dave Chappelle as “black bush”:Reporter-“What about people who say you’re only interested in the middle-east for oil?” Black Bush-“what? Huh? Oil? Who said somthin’ about oil bitch, you cookin’? oil!? Man I dunno what the-“ knocks over water pitcher and runs “-come on yah’ll get outta here!”
Ruppert had many arguments that were not facts. That would need to be proven with evidence and the only way to understand the evidence is to read it. For example: The CIA is wall street. The government is complicit with drug trafficking. The CIA’s director has to OK the director of the ISI.
One thing he didn’t do is cram stimuli down your throat(without citations) and insult your intelligence if you didn’t see how it was all an illuminati plot.
So I printed this out. Started looking at the citations and maybe pulling them up while watching the documentary. I wanted to see if he was exaggerating anything.
He pulled out The Grand ChessBoard by Zibigniew Brezezenski and read a few quotes. The quotes were incredible. Obviously not something that makes you decide there was direct culpability, but makes it quite obvious that numerous intellectuals and even elite factions had been “waiting” for this. The PNAC’s statement in “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” was usually the one focused on at my sources of information intake. The PNAC were neo-cons and right wingers, but Zibig…he was something else. I didn’t know much about him, except that he was at the Oslo Accords from a PBS documentary on Israel-Palestine. Then I remembered where I had read his name. The adbusters hope and memory issue . It had a quote from Brezezinski taken from Le Nouvel Observateur .
“Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? TheTaliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-upMoslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of thecold war?”
My question is are the two connected?
Now don’t assume that by me asking these questions above evidences that I have concluded on any of them or that I “believe” a certain story over others.
I only say that because there is one question I’d like to ask Brzezinski, and that is if he knows who the Muslim Brotherhood is.
If he answered yes to this question, I would have to follow with: “Are you aware of the connection between what intelligence agencies refer to as ‘Al-Qaeda’ and this entity The Muslim Brotherhood?”
I started to look in to Ruppert’s background to see if there were any blatant conflicts of interest. What I found is that there was nothing, but a few smear articles written about his episode with John Deutch. Calling him a “conspiracy theorist” simply because he had said that the government is trafficking drugs. Never addressing the points he made they continued to rehash the argument that he had stated “the drug trafficking was happening to get black people addicted to crack-cocaine” ”(which by the way is exactly what Gary Webb was smeared with).
This was of course not what he was saying.
But, there are people who attempt to use such tiny fractions of attention to manipulate. Individuals who want to convince you in 90 minutes that a Bavarian secret society has been pre-eminent for a few thousand years they are one type. The other type is the individual who misconstrues and smears.
They take pleasure in their puckishness and mistake it for being clever, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
They know that most people will opt for the easiest psychological way out. By saying that Ruppert was arguing “the drug trafficking was happening to get black people addicted to crack-cocaine” he gives people the easy way out. He states that he knows that Ruppert did this. Like all the reader would have to do is track it down and read it. If the reader did that he would undoubtedly come to the same conclusion as the author. That is how it is presented.
So most people are not going to read what Ruppert said. They will conclude he is a moron and a conspiracy theorist, therefore anything he has to say can be rejected prima facie.
There are others who have learned this tactic and use it to great effect on the collective consciousness known as the internet .
Those are the first of your enemies in your search for truth. The obfuscators. Who are made up of two sects:The individuals who would be getting a check for their smear tactics if they were smart.AndThe individuals who want the psychologically easy way out.
They are the individuals who label people “conspiracy theorist” for asking hard to answer and scary questions. But these obfuscators suffer from the same symptom of schizophrenia that the conspiracists do.
No one is normal.
The other enemy is the attention whores and the cult leaders. They also would be getting a check if they were smart. People like Fintan Dunne who labels a swath of independent research outlets as CIA fronts without evidence obviously. These are the people who condemn individuals who are helpful to our search for truth as disinformation or CIA assets. They are also the ones who give more credibility to the theory the more “hokey” it is. Such as The Hologram Theory .
It disturbed me to see a view on Ruppert’s credibility from an individual who wrote for FTW and the comments that followed.
They(hopsicker, emory, and GNNers) have a point.
Ruppert didn’t mention the Muslim Brotherhood in the Rubicon.
In fact when I read The Big Wedding, I was initially in a state of disbelief when I came across the chapter Hicks wrote on the Muslim Brotherhood.
I would like to know Ruppert’s response to the criticism that he did not include research pertaining to the Muslim Brotherhood.
I had to check it out for myself to see if what Hicks was saying stood up. It added a whole other element to the story that I had never been exposed to.
This element should be explored.
Much like Brezezinski’s statements are the flipside of the PNAC.
This Muslim Brotherhood information is coming from right wing news sources and not being covered in other places.
Which could make it the flipside of the “neo-cons share the most direct culpability(i.e. dick cheney)” which for the most part was circulating through left wing sources.
Could they both be red herrings?
Why question the answers?
Is lucidity that important? Is consciousness? Is truth?
I remember a time when I did not “believe” that individuals within our own government would possibly engage in an activity such as 9/11. The pure audacity of it for one thing, how could they get away with it, and why would they risk their power?
Before I really delved in to the historical investigation of this event. I already knew and “believed” that these events would be manipulated by the individuals in power, regardless of party or position, to further their own subjective goals. It even seemed highly plausible that there was negligence and incompetence. But…foreknowledge? Culpability? Such conclusions seemed farfetched.
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I opened my eyes to hear the scream of the telephone on the floor of my dormitory. My girlfriend rolled out of bed and walked around the divider between my “bedroom” to the outside of e-suite. It was the largest room on campus that a single person occupied, somehow I had managed to get out of having a roommate. “Hello” She asked in to the receiver.I rolled over pressing my eyes shut hoping to fall asleep quickly. Hoping that if I fell asleep quickly it would somehow delay the alarm on my watch that stared down at me from the window sill. The whole area glowed with a piercing blindness from the morning sun, which made it impossible to see the time it read without committing myself completely to lucidity and consciousness-“A Plane Did What?!” She stated incredulously.-my eyebrow raised slightly as the aural stimuli from the next room reached my brain. I gave it a small percentage of my conscious attention. That is to say I dedicated what little I could spare as long as I could remain somewhat asleep.
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The TV turned on. She kicked the reel from my Dreamcast’s Bass Fishing game and sent it skipping over discarded trash and empty beer cans along the floor. “oh my god. nada, wake up, come here!”The tone of her voice and the attention I had dedicated so far told me this was more important than my chronic morning infatuation with sleep.
I stepped in to the room and rubbing my eyes stared at the television. A smoking building. Where? “A plane flew in to a building.” She stated matter-of-factly. “Wow, now that is a drunk pilot.” I let out as I collapsed on the couch next to her.
Then the channels that seemed like they had only just appeared in the 2000 elections took charge of the oversight for my stimuli consumption. The 24-propaganda disseminators which would be telling us what issues to think about and what their corporate owners subjectively define “normativity” as.
I was smirking when it happened.
The “journalists” came from every direction “literally crawling out of little holes in the ground” pointing their cameras and giving live feeds. Every single aircraft that would fly by within sight would be videotaped. While following the path of said aircraft the “journalist” will make statements which in general look like these:“oh no, here comes another plane right now!”“uh oh, we got a plane coming in hold on!”“OH! OH! watch out! plane!”Every “journalist” wanted to be the one who saw and pointed out the death and destruction first. This was award time and they couldn’t have been happier.
I was smirking when it happened.
BOOM!!!!!
All day they “speculated”. All day my friends and I just pointed out the bullshit that was being called “the news”. Everyone in the country was watching it. Everyone in the country saw the replay over and over. Every single subjective entity in this country was force-fed the same overwhelmingly traumatizing imagery and then spoon-fed bullshit for the next few weeks.
I didn’t know what to fully make of it, but the thought of collusion never crossed my mind.
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..It was a while before I got back to Chicago. My friend and I went to see the Atmosphere, Eyedea and Abilities, Mr. Dibbs, and Sage Francis show at the Fireside. The fireside is gone now, but it was a broken down bowling alley with the bar still intact. Not the greatest of venues, but it had been the purveyor of many an epic punk and hip-hop show.
The ceiling kept coming off in pieces on the artists, the legs of the table for the decks were wobbly, and the worst part: every once in awhile the mic would cut off.It was a fun atmosphere(no pun intended) the artists made fun of the crowd for not hearing of any of them but Eyedea, because he was on the HBO blaze battle. Freestyling incorporating the general shittiness of the venue in their rhymes.Lots of energy, great music, and light hearted response to the ceiling collapsing on them.
In general a great show.
I had never heard of Sage Francis, except for I understood he was on the ticket for the show. So I was skeptical when he got on stage and launched in to a spoken word session. I’m not a huge fan of spoken word, but what can make it even harder to deal with spoken word is when the mic keeps getting cut off. A few songs in to his set he pulls a necktie out of his pocket.
“This is something that’s gonna be on the next album” he said as he put the necktie on.
And belted it out:“Makeshift patriot the flagshop is out of stock/I hang myself at half mastMakeshift patriot the flagshop is out of stock/I hang myself at half mastComing live from my own funeral, beautiful weather offered a nice shineWhich is suitable for a full view of a forever altered skylineWhen times like these arrive I freestyle biased opinions every other sentence Journalistic ethics slip when I pass them off as objective “Don’t give me that ethical shit.” I’ve got exclusive, explicit images to present to impressionable American kids And it’s time to show this world how big our edifice is! That’s exactly what they attacked when a typically dark skinned Disney villain Used civilians against civilians and charged the Trojan horses into our buildings Using commercial aviation as instruments of destruction Pregnant women couldn’t protect their children Wheelchairs were stairway obstructions Now have to back pedal…from the shower of glass and metal Wondering how after it all settles we’ll find who provided power to radical rebels The Melting Pot seems to be calling the kettle black when it boils over But only on our own soil so the little boy holds a toy soldier.. And waits for the suit and tie to come home. We won’t wait ‘til he’s older before we destroy his hopes for a colder war to end “Now get a close up of his head” Makeshift PatriotThe Flag Shop Is Out of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast ”How does my hair look” Makeshift Patriot The Flag Shop Is Out of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast “Run that tape back” Makeshift Patriot The Flag Shop Is Out Of Stock/I Hang Myself at Half Mast “It Looks just like a movie” It’s the make shift The patriot The Flag Shop is Out of Stock I hang myself “while the stock markets crash” The city is covered in inches of muck I see some other pictures of victims are up Grieving mothers are thinking their children are stuck Leaping lovers are making decisions to jump While holding hands…to escape the brutal heat Sometimes in groups of three The fall out was far beyond the toxic cloud where people look like debris But all they saw after all was said…beyond the talking heads Was the bloody dust with legs looking like the walking dead calling for meds but Hospitals are overwhelmed. Volunteers need to go the hell home Moments of silence for fire fighters were interrupted by cell phones Who’s gonna to make that call to increase an unknown death toll? It’s the one we rally behind He’s got a megaphone…and he’s promising to make heads roll we cheer him on, but asbestos is affecting our breath control The lesser we know…the more they fabricate…the easier it is to sell souls There is a new price on freedom, so buy into it while supplies last. Changes need to be made;No more curbside baggage,Seven pm curfew,Racial profiling will continue with less bitching.We’ve unified over who to kill, so until I find more relevant scripture to quote,Remember, our god is bigger, stronger, smarter, and much wealthier. So wave those flags with pride, especially the white part. We’re sellin’ addictive 24 hour candle light vigils on TV’s Freedom will be defended…at the cost of civil liberties The viewers are glued to television screens Stuck… cause lots of things seem too sick I use opportunities to pluck heart strings for theme music I’ll show you which culture to pump your fist at, which foot is right to kiss we don’t really know who the culprit is yet…but he looks. Like. This. we know who the heroes are. They’re not the xenophobes who act hard “We taught that dog to squat, how dare he do that shit in our own back yard!” They happened to scar our financial state and char our landscape Can you count how many times so far I’ve ran back this same damn tape? While a camera man creates news and shoves it down our throats on the West Bank With a ten second clip put on constant loop to provoke US angst So get your tanks and load your guns and hold your sons in a family huddle ’cause even if we win this tug of war and even the score…humanity struggles There’s a desperate need of blood for what’s been uncovered under the rubble Some of them dug for answers in the mess…but the rest were looking for trouble”
As he approached the climax of the song he pulled upwards on his necktie, until it had transformed fully in to a noose.
Great show, but pretty melodramatic was my impression. But those lyrics… those lyrics.
“Now I have to back pedal…from the shower of glass and metal Wondering how after it all settles we’ll find who provided power to radical rebels”
“We cheer him on, but asbestos is affecting our breath controlThe lesser we know, The more they fabricate, the easier it is to sell souls”
Then finally one that would reveal its meaning later:“There’s a desperate need of blood for what’s been uncovered under the rubble Some of them dug for answers in the mess…but the rest were looking for trouble”.
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.Got my hands on a laptop a few years later. My friend explained to me that he discovered something called “Torrents” which was a (so far) legal peer-to-peer file sharing system. It worked so quickly that you could download movies. Well I soon found out that getting movies that people didn’t want you to have were actually harder to get. On the other hand movies that people wanted others to see were easy. That is how I filled a 100gb mp3 player with documentaries. I didn’t discriminate and found a wealth of movies concerned with things considered “propaganda” like global conspiracies and secret societies. I had always read a little here and there on the general ideas. Esotericism, dispensationalism, and Masonic myth. The Man Who Would Be King is what piqued my interest in Masonic mythology(which obviously started out as a Rudyard Kipling book[who authored the mythologies on animal origins which I used to love]).
But most movies that centered around simply proving an “illuminati” were boring as fuck and ridiculously slanted. These movies were doing one thing consistently: Underestimating the audience’s intelligence.
To believe a single secret society presided over all events of historical significance without a single internal revolution or political-infighting is naïve to say the least.
But, to create a movie with the purpose of making a person believe a single secret society presided over all events of historical significance without a single internal revolution or political-infighting is going to be rife with manipulations, because it is not possible to conclude such a massive thing without first properly understanding the preponderance of evidence and secondly dwelling on the evidence.
For the most part I didn’t really get through any of those movies. The reason I mention them is, because in order to get to the juicy part I had to cut the gristle and the fat out. Just because you have to sit through Alex Jones yelling about the illuminati, does not mean that the citations he offers are any less credible, because of it. You can always disagree with a person’s conclusion, but facts are facts.
But also mythology is interesting and comedic, it is funny to see how David Icke views the world. Not funny like “what a sad person” but funny like “what a different perspective”.
So after watching some random conspiracist movie they mentioned 911 and I wrote down the citation. I realized I liked the 911 information, but I do not “believe” there was a conspiracy or direct culpability. I only “believed” at the most there was negligence.
So I downloaded a plethora of 911 based documentaries, still really only for the novelty of seeing where this mythology of a Bavarian secret society running things would say about 911.
I would leave them on while I played Halo 2 with a friend of mine. Dedicating just as much attention as I could without hurting my performance in the game.
I learned I couldn’t stand Alex Jones very quickly. The constant yelling, the cheesy graphics, and the delusions of grandeur just got to me and I found myself fast-forwarding a lot. What I mean by delusions of grandeur is in fact a symptom of schizophrenia and a belief in your own greatness. It embraces the mythological archetype of Odysseus and is not a shortcut to happiness. Labeling others as “sheep” constantly is an effort to condition a person with the stimuli that people who aren’t illuminati acolytes are less than human. This is what Jones does by constantly referring to “outsiders” as sheep. He teaches you that there is no one else to trust and he teaches you that believing in him is superior. Not only that but this dehumanization is a psychological precursor to war, genocide, and murder to dehumanize the enemy.
Well I kept track of what little citations he offered despite my personal distaste for his style. I quickly developed a favorite movie, essentially the one I could watch more than once.
It was called “The Truth and Lies of 911”. It started with a clip of some guy giving shit to CIA director John Deutch in a public hearing about drug smuggling operations that were being overseen by the CIA. It had this guy Peter Dale Scott in it who has written extensively on drugs, oil, and war . Most importantly though it had more citations than you could shake a stick at.
The one thing I noticed about Ruppert is he didn’t tell you his conclusion. His conclusion remains mired in mystery throughout the film and on his website. It was not peak oil that needed to convince me what the Iraq war was fought over. Just ask Dave Chappelle as “black bush”:Reporter-“What about people who say you’re only interested in the middle-east for oil?” Black Bush-“what? Huh? Oil? Who said somthin’ about oil bitch, you cookin’? oil!? Man I dunno what the-“ knocks over water pitcher and runs “-come on yah’ll get outta here!”
Ruppert had many arguments that were not facts. That would need to be proven with evidence and the only way to understand the evidence is to read it. For example: The CIA is wall street. The government is complicit with drug trafficking. The CIA’s director has to OK the director of the ISI.
One thing he didn’t do is cram stimuli down your throat(without citations) and insult your intelligence if you didn’t see how it was all an illuminati plot.
So I printed this out. Started looking at the citations and maybe pulling them up while watching the documentary. I wanted to see if he was exaggerating anything.
He pulled out The Grand ChessBoard by Zibigniew Brezezenski and read a few quotes. The quotes were incredible. Obviously not something that makes you decide there was direct culpability, but makes it quite obvious that numerous intellectuals and even elite factions had been “waiting” for this. The PNAC’s statement in “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” was usually the one focused on at my sources of information intake. The PNAC were neo-cons and right wingers, but Zibig…he was something else. I didn’t know much about him, except that he was at the Oslo Accords from a PBS documentary on Israel-Palestine. Then I remembered where I had read his name. The adbusters hope and memory issue . It had a quote from Brezezinski taken from Le Nouvel Observateur .
“Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? TheTaliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-upMoslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of thecold war?”
My question is are the two connected?
Now don’t assume that by me asking these questions above evidences that I have concluded on any of them or that I “believe” a certain story over others.
I only say that because there is one question I’d like to ask Brzezinski, and that is if he knows who the Muslim Brotherhood is.
If he answered yes to this question, I would have to follow with: “Are you aware of the connection between what intelligence agencies refer to as ‘Al-Qaeda’ and this entity The Muslim Brotherhood?”
I started to look in to Ruppert’s background to see if there were any blatant conflicts of interest. What I found is that there was nothing, but a few smear articles written about his episode with John Deutch. Calling him a “conspiracy theorist” simply because he had said that the government is trafficking drugs. Never addressing the points he made they continued to rehash the argument that he had stated “the drug trafficking was happening to get black people addicted to crack-cocaine” ”(which by the way is exactly what Gary Webb was smeared with).
This was of course not what he was saying.
But, there are people who attempt to use such tiny fractions of attention to manipulate. Individuals who want to convince you in 90 minutes that a Bavarian secret society has been pre-eminent for a few thousand years they are one type. The other type is the individual who misconstrues and smears.
They take pleasure in their puckishness and mistake it for being clever, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
They know that most people will opt for the easiest psychological way out. By saying that Ruppert was arguing “the drug trafficking was happening to get black people addicted to crack-cocaine” he gives people the easy way out. He states that he knows that Ruppert did this. Like all the reader would have to do is track it down and read it. If the reader did that he would undoubtedly come to the same conclusion as the author. That is how it is presented.
So most people are not going to read what Ruppert said. They will conclude he is a moron and a conspiracy theorist, therefore anything he has to say can be rejected prima facie.
There are others who have learned this tactic and use it to great effect on the collective consciousness known as the internet .
Those are the first of your enemies in your search for truth. The obfuscators. Who are made up of two sects:The individuals who would be getting a check for their smear tactics if they were smart.AndThe individuals who want the psychologically easy way out.
They are the individuals who label people “conspiracy theorist” for asking hard to answer and scary questions. But these obfuscators suffer from the same symptom of schizophrenia that the conspiracists do.
No one is normal.
The other enemy is the attention whores and the cult leaders. They also would be getting a check if they were smart. People like Fintan Dunne who labels a swath of independent research outlets as CIA fronts without evidence obviously. These are the people who condemn individuals who are helpful to our search for truth as disinformation or CIA assets. They are also the ones who give more credibility to the theory the more “hokey” it is. Such as The Hologram Theory .
It disturbed me to see a view on Ruppert’s credibility from an individual who wrote for FTW and the comments that followed.
They(hopsicker, emory, and GNNers) have a point.
Ruppert didn’t mention the Muslim Brotherhood in the Rubicon.
In fact when I read The Big Wedding, I was initially in a state of disbelief when I came across the chapter Hicks wrote on the Muslim Brotherhood.
I would like to know Ruppert’s response to the criticism that he did not include research pertaining to the Muslim Brotherhood.
I had to check it out for myself to see if what Hicks was saying stood up. It added a whole other element to the story that I had never been exposed to.
This element should be explored.
Much like Brezezinski’s statements are the flipside of the PNAC.
This Muslim Brotherhood information is coming from right wing news sources and not being covered in other places.
Which could make it the flipside of the “neo-cons share the most direct culpability(i.e. dick cheney)” which for the most part was circulating through left wing sources.
Could they both be red herrings?
Why question the answers?
Is lucidity that important? Is consciousness? Is truth?
911 truth movement amorphous blob of decentralized intelligence gatherers
How does the saying go: “Truth goes through three stages first it is ridiculed, then violently opposed, and finally accepted”.
I guess we are still in the first stage of truth for the atrocities that happened on 9/11/01, but I believe we are in a transitory phase in to the second step. My most convincing evidence is the new Zogby poll .Although those 40% may not self-indentify as members of the “9/11 truth movement”, they are “members”. Anyone who wants the truth about what happened on 9/11 is part of the 9/11 truth movement. One does not have to have a workable theory on what happened, one can know jack shit about 9/11 as long as they desire to know more: they are part of the 9/11 truth movement.
Well if that is true, shouldn’t there be a name for people who do not want more information to be ascertained regarding 9/11/01?
Lets see if I can come up with a workable phrase by the end of this blog.
An article goes up somewhere in a mainstream news outlet: “9/11 truth movement are the same as holocaust deniers” from the Chicago Sun-Times or “9/11 truth movement is ”...Like those who often write to tell me that the Pentagon, the FBI and/or the intelligence agencies are following them, that they are mind control victims whose lives have been ruined by directed energy weapons in space or the transmitters implanted in their teeth…” from the Washington Post.When a pseudo-journalist working for a corporate “legal person” espousing the political and worldview of that “legal person” puts up pieces labeling 40% of the United States as “holocaust deniers” or schizophrenics with delusions of persecution, they are making a dumb mistake. Well they are either making a dumb mistake or for some reason using libel to hurt the movement. Do they really want to call 40% of their readers paranoid schizophrenics?
Wait a second though, the two articles I mentioned…are…not…even…articles. In fact they are op-ed opinion pieces. These individuals weren’t asked to cover this, they were forced to by having their email box filled to the the brim with links from “loose change dittoheads” and others. Probably sent there by somewhere close to 40% of the population.
What happens after such an op-ed goes up?What happens after a corporate legal person conditions the populace with a “9/11 truth movement”=holocaust deniers meme? Or creates a new term “9/11 rejectionists”(much like the label “Eco-Terrorism”, because it can be used both ways)?
Well I’ll tell you how it doesn’t go:The “rejectionists”(fuck I can’t even use the word, because it applies far more aptly to the Arkins of the world). OK the 9/11 truth movement/holocaust deniers don’t roll over and take it. They are nutcases and crazy, so there should be so few of them. The comments board on these articles light up and 30 or so comments go up. The author smiles to himself and lets out a sigh of triumph.
He has done what few others could do, he displayed the courage to say that “journalists’” willful ignorance of a story gives him gratification.Now if someone on the street told me it gave him/her gratification that no one covered stories pertaining to 9/11, I would sock that motherfucker in the face and begin stomping on their ribs before their body even hit the pavement. The more articles the better. The more information the better. There is no reason to oppose knowledge, (gonna get paranoid for a second here[but also logical]) unless the person opposing has a vested interest in the truth not coming to light. There is really no other reason a person would take their valuable time to try to stop people from learning about 9/11 and/or teaching others about 9/11.
So William Arkin signs back on to his internet, hes gonna go look at the comments on his blog over his coffee. Oh looks like a “holocaust denier” took the first comment posted by an individual named ‘no’:
“what research have you done?
it is so easy to target a group, single them out, paint them as some evil enemy with some sort of unknown motive, and defile them without providing any substance whatsoever – so much easier than doing any real research or providing any real information to your reader base.
perhaps in the least you should recognize that over half of new yorkers want a new investigation, and that the jersey girls who faught for the original investigation called the 911 commission a ‘hallow failure’.
so lets see, bush and cheney wanted to limit the scope of the investigation, waited 400+ days to allow an independent investigation, refused to testify in public or under oath, had to testify together, and on the morning of 911 the secret service didn’t move a finger after the 2nd plane hit -well after the secret service was on the call bridge aware of multiple hijackings – oh, and the commission was a lame whitewash..
yeah, those that question 911 are so stupid – give me a break.
so i ask, what research have you done?”
hmmm, Arkin thinks to himself “god damn it, stop being so reasonable. You’re supposed to be talking about aliens and mind control”Moving along to the next comment Arkin reads:
“If 9/11 is an open and shut case, why does one of the official reports say:
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis [fire/debris-damage-caused collapse] has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue.
(FEMA, 2002, chapter 5; emphasis added.)”
“shit” arkin says to himself “the comment has a cite! I don’t even have a cite in my entire op-ed! Thats not crazy thats just a citation, this next comment better not be a ‘conspiracy theorist’. Or at least if it is I hope they’re writing an opinion like me, because op-ed is the highest form of journalism and citations make me look bad!”
So arkin gets through 7 comments not a single one supporting him when he gets to this piece of gold written by Jon Gold:“It’s obviously a sad day in America when the people have to tell the Press what’s going on in this country.”
Sooo Arkin reads through some 24 comments before he reaches one that seems to be on his side.
”...First, I would like to thank each of you for your contributions to aiding the psychological well-being of the citizens of the United States. Second, I pray that each of you take an interest in this topic so as to lay to rest the 9/11 truth movement as merely conspiratorial nonsense, or, “bridge the threshold” and reveal, though terribly disturbing, a truth that can become the bedrock of necessary knowledge so as to truly allow for the healing of our collective psyche and secure a more prosperous humanity. ”
“Wait” arkin says “Hes not really agreeing with me, he is saying everyone should take interest and research 9/11 so we can expose it as a conspiracy theory if thats what it is.”So Arkin again begins to read, looking for one comment which agrees with him.
Bam! Got one! after almost 30 comments here is a dittohead who will repeat his phrase of “rejectionist” and say this:
”...It is time that you in the media start doing your job and point out the idiocy of this notion as well as the lunacy of those who think 9-11 was some government plot”
THere are over a hundred comments, but there are single digit comments in suport of Arkin, which brings me to my point:
THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT IS HAWT!!!
This amoebaesque monolith of people with only one unifying central motivation: “Give me information on 9/11” is a juggernaut so unstoppable it could send the immovable blob) flying.
The truth movement suffers from internal struggles 24/7. Face it, they hate eachother, they’re always arguing amongst eachother this guy says planes were holograms, this lady says there were demolition charges, and this lady says there was only foreknowledge. Put those three in a room together and they’ll tear eachother apart. But give them(in the words of the PNAC) a “catalyzing” event, a common enemy. For example: Arkin, and watch the show. Much like throwing a cow in a pool of pirahnas. They are proud of the research they’ve done and what they know. They are proud that they have the courage to stand up to bullies who receive “gratification” from willful “ignorance” of 9/11.
I just wanted to write something about how proud I am of this “movement” which basically doesn’t exist. It is the most decentralized group of people that has ever been referred to as a “movement”. There are hundreds of 9/11 truth sites out there, within each one of those cites are hundreds of differing opinions on what the truth of 9/11 is.
The only thing that identifies us is that we each did our time. We each dedicated pieces of our lives to absorbing and analyzing information regarding 9/11. After a certain amount of information it becomes quite obvious that there was official foreknowledge in the white house, pentagon, and various other places.
We rush to defend eachother and Arkin’s piece is a great example.
As official foreknowledge becomes “violently opposed” rather than “ridiculed”, it will also signify a larger sea change. We are the heralds of the MSM’s(mainstream medias) collapse. We are the next generation of information consumers who have been burned out on bullshit. We will no longer pay money to buy a vehicle for advertisements(newspaper) in order to hear a corporate entity trumpet its’ worldview, through a hundred different names of “journalists”(see Lapdog ).
Instead we will report the news and we will share information with eachother. If it works it will bring democracy back to the United States. Without a few major corporations having a stranglehold on information, people may somehow start hearing THE TRUTH. Which means they will be able to hold their representatives accountable, which is a good thing no matter how you stand on 9/11.
There are 2 schools of thought on 9/11.
(1) I want a new investigation and more information from my government which refused to declassify important information the public should know.
(2) I do not want an investigation and I do not want more information on 9/11.
What do we call the people who refuse to look at the piles of shoes or piles of gold teeth what do we call them? I think the phrase is “holocaust deniers”.
So what should we call the people who refuse to look at the aug. 6th pdb, the phoenix memo, coleen rowley, vreeland, randy glass, ISI, mahmood ahmed, umar saed sheikh, Delta Oil, khalid bin mahfouz, insider trading, war games, mujahidin, etc. etc. ?Although Arkin wanted to label category (1) people as “9/11 rejectionists” and Neil Steinberg wanted to label category (1) people as “9/11 deniers”.
My only question is: Why would category (1) people be more “rejectionists” or “deniers” than category (2)?
If you don’t have the balls to investigate 9/11 then at least don’t try to libel us for desring information.
Don’t ever, EVER think you have the moral high ground, because you ignore information.Look at those pictures of the piles of baby shoes, burn that image in to your fucking retinas, never forget.
Absorb information about how it happened, how that pile of baby shoes ended up there, how the melted down jewelry found its way to swiss banks. How a madman got emergency powers and how the people didn’t stop it.
Study 9/11, absorb information about how it happened and why.How a madman got emergency warmaking powers and people didn’t stop it.
I’d like to end with William Arkin’s quote:
“Though 9/11truth.org and the blogosphere continues to rail against the mainstream media for ignoring their issue and their cause, the only gratifying element of the story is the restraint so far shown by the media in ignoring the thinly masked craziness and the Internet hype.”
”...the only gratifying element of the story is the restraint so far shown by the media in ignoring the thinly masked craziness and the Internet hype.”
Thats right my freinds, Arkin is gratified that 9/11 doesn’t receive media.
As much as that angers you, go to his article and see how he got pwned by 9/11 truthers. The movement is real and not internet hype. We have no newsletter, no fund raising, and no talking points. The truth is obvious and that is why there are so many of us. The lies of the 9/11 commission report were so blatant that 40% of United Statesians want a new investigation. We are so decentralized we don’t even know eachother’s real names, but the funny thing is we’re going to win despite the fact we have ABSOLUTELY NO FORMAL organization.
“ridiculed, violently opposed, accepted”
I guess we are still in the first stage of truth for the atrocities that happened on 9/11/01, but I believe we are in a transitory phase in to the second step. My most convincing evidence is the new Zogby poll .Although those 40% may not self-indentify as members of the “9/11 truth movement”, they are “members”. Anyone who wants the truth about what happened on 9/11 is part of the 9/11 truth movement. One does not have to have a workable theory on what happened, one can know jack shit about 9/11 as long as they desire to know more: they are part of the 9/11 truth movement.
Well if that is true, shouldn’t there be a name for people who do not want more information to be ascertained regarding 9/11/01?
Lets see if I can come up with a workable phrase by the end of this blog.
An article goes up somewhere in a mainstream news outlet: “9/11 truth movement are the same as holocaust deniers” from the Chicago Sun-Times or “9/11 truth movement is ”...Like those who often write to tell me that the Pentagon, the FBI and/or the intelligence agencies are following them, that they are mind control victims whose lives have been ruined by directed energy weapons in space or the transmitters implanted in their teeth…” from the Washington Post.When a pseudo-journalist working for a corporate “legal person” espousing the political and worldview of that “legal person” puts up pieces labeling 40% of the United States as “holocaust deniers” or schizophrenics with delusions of persecution, they are making a dumb mistake. Well they are either making a dumb mistake or for some reason using libel to hurt the movement. Do they really want to call 40% of their readers paranoid schizophrenics?
Wait a second though, the two articles I mentioned…are…not…even…articles. In fact they are op-ed opinion pieces. These individuals weren’t asked to cover this, they were forced to by having their email box filled to the the brim with links from “loose change dittoheads” and others. Probably sent there by somewhere close to 40% of the population.
What happens after such an op-ed goes up?What happens after a corporate legal person conditions the populace with a “9/11 truth movement”=holocaust deniers meme? Or creates a new term “9/11 rejectionists”(much like the label “Eco-Terrorism”, because it can be used both ways)?
Well I’ll tell you how it doesn’t go:The “rejectionists”(fuck I can’t even use the word, because it applies far more aptly to the Arkins of the world). OK the 9/11 truth movement/holocaust deniers don’t roll over and take it. They are nutcases and crazy, so there should be so few of them. The comments board on these articles light up and 30 or so comments go up. The author smiles to himself and lets out a sigh of triumph.
He has done what few others could do, he displayed the courage to say that “journalists’” willful ignorance of a story gives him gratification.Now if someone on the street told me it gave him/her gratification that no one covered stories pertaining to 9/11, I would sock that motherfucker in the face and begin stomping on their ribs before their body even hit the pavement. The more articles the better. The more information the better. There is no reason to oppose knowledge, (gonna get paranoid for a second here[but also logical]) unless the person opposing has a vested interest in the truth not coming to light. There is really no other reason a person would take their valuable time to try to stop people from learning about 9/11 and/or teaching others about 9/11.
So William Arkin signs back on to his internet, hes gonna go look at the comments on his blog over his coffee. Oh looks like a “holocaust denier” took the first comment posted by an individual named ‘no’:
“what research have you done?
it is so easy to target a group, single them out, paint them as some evil enemy with some sort of unknown motive, and defile them without providing any substance whatsoever – so much easier than doing any real research or providing any real information to your reader base.
perhaps in the least you should recognize that over half of new yorkers want a new investigation, and that the jersey girls who faught for the original investigation called the 911 commission a ‘hallow failure’.
so lets see, bush and cheney wanted to limit the scope of the investigation, waited 400+ days to allow an independent investigation, refused to testify in public or under oath, had to testify together, and on the morning of 911 the secret service didn’t move a finger after the 2nd plane hit -well after the secret service was on the call bridge aware of multiple hijackings – oh, and the commission was a lame whitewash..
yeah, those that question 911 are so stupid – give me a break.
so i ask, what research have you done?”
hmmm, Arkin thinks to himself “god damn it, stop being so reasonable. You’re supposed to be talking about aliens and mind control”Moving along to the next comment Arkin reads:
“If 9/11 is an open and shut case, why does one of the official reports say:
The specifics of the fires in WTC 7 and how they caused the building to collapse remain unknown at this time. Although the total diesel fuel on the premises contained massive potential energy, the best hypothesis [fire/debris-damage-caused collapse] has only a low probability of occurrence. Further research, investigation, and analyses are needed to resolve this issue.
(FEMA, 2002, chapter 5; emphasis added.)”
“shit” arkin says to himself “the comment has a cite! I don’t even have a cite in my entire op-ed! Thats not crazy thats just a citation, this next comment better not be a ‘conspiracy theorist’. Or at least if it is I hope they’re writing an opinion like me, because op-ed is the highest form of journalism and citations make me look bad!”
So arkin gets through 7 comments not a single one supporting him when he gets to this piece of gold written by Jon Gold:“It’s obviously a sad day in America when the people have to tell the Press what’s going on in this country.”
Sooo Arkin reads through some 24 comments before he reaches one that seems to be on his side.
”...First, I would like to thank each of you for your contributions to aiding the psychological well-being of the citizens of the United States. Second, I pray that each of you take an interest in this topic so as to lay to rest the 9/11 truth movement as merely conspiratorial nonsense, or, “bridge the threshold” and reveal, though terribly disturbing, a truth that can become the bedrock of necessary knowledge so as to truly allow for the healing of our collective psyche and secure a more prosperous humanity. ”
“Wait” arkin says “Hes not really agreeing with me, he is saying everyone should take interest and research 9/11 so we can expose it as a conspiracy theory if thats what it is.”So Arkin again begins to read, looking for one comment which agrees with him.
Bam! Got one! after almost 30 comments here is a dittohead who will repeat his phrase of “rejectionist” and say this:
”...It is time that you in the media start doing your job and point out the idiocy of this notion as well as the lunacy of those who think 9-11 was some government plot”
THere are over a hundred comments, but there are single digit comments in suport of Arkin, which brings me to my point:
THE 9/11 TRUTH MOVEMENT IS HAWT!!!
This amoebaesque monolith of people with only one unifying central motivation: “Give me information on 9/11” is a juggernaut so unstoppable it could send the immovable blob) flying.
The truth movement suffers from internal struggles 24/7. Face it, they hate eachother, they’re always arguing amongst eachother this guy says planes were holograms, this lady says there were demolition charges, and this lady says there was only foreknowledge. Put those three in a room together and they’ll tear eachother apart. But give them(in the words of the PNAC) a “catalyzing” event, a common enemy. For example: Arkin, and watch the show. Much like throwing a cow in a pool of pirahnas. They are proud of the research they’ve done and what they know. They are proud that they have the courage to stand up to bullies who receive “gratification” from willful “ignorance” of 9/11.
I just wanted to write something about how proud I am of this “movement” which basically doesn’t exist. It is the most decentralized group of people that has ever been referred to as a “movement”. There are hundreds of 9/11 truth sites out there, within each one of those cites are hundreds of differing opinions on what the truth of 9/11 is.
The only thing that identifies us is that we each did our time. We each dedicated pieces of our lives to absorbing and analyzing information regarding 9/11. After a certain amount of information it becomes quite obvious that there was official foreknowledge in the white house, pentagon, and various other places.
We rush to defend eachother and Arkin’s piece is a great example.
As official foreknowledge becomes “violently opposed” rather than “ridiculed”, it will also signify a larger sea change. We are the heralds of the MSM’s(mainstream medias) collapse. We are the next generation of information consumers who have been burned out on bullshit. We will no longer pay money to buy a vehicle for advertisements(newspaper) in order to hear a corporate entity trumpet its’ worldview, through a hundred different names of “journalists”(see Lapdog ).
Instead we will report the news and we will share information with eachother. If it works it will bring democracy back to the United States. Without a few major corporations having a stranglehold on information, people may somehow start hearing THE TRUTH. Which means they will be able to hold their representatives accountable, which is a good thing no matter how you stand on 9/11.
There are 2 schools of thought on 9/11.
(1) I want a new investigation and more information from my government which refused to declassify important information the public should know.
(2) I do not want an investigation and I do not want more information on 9/11.
What do we call the people who refuse to look at the piles of shoes or piles of gold teeth what do we call them? I think the phrase is “holocaust deniers”.
So what should we call the people who refuse to look at the aug. 6th pdb, the phoenix memo, coleen rowley, vreeland, randy glass, ISI, mahmood ahmed, umar saed sheikh, Delta Oil, khalid bin mahfouz, insider trading, war games, mujahidin, etc. etc. ?Although Arkin wanted to label category (1) people as “9/11 rejectionists” and Neil Steinberg wanted to label category (1) people as “9/11 deniers”.
My only question is: Why would category (1) people be more “rejectionists” or “deniers” than category (2)?
If you don’t have the balls to investigate 9/11 then at least don’t try to libel us for desring information.
Don’t ever, EVER think you have the moral high ground, because you ignore information.Look at those pictures of the piles of baby shoes, burn that image in to your fucking retinas, never forget.
Absorb information about how it happened, how that pile of baby shoes ended up there, how the melted down jewelry found its way to swiss banks. How a madman got emergency powers and how the people didn’t stop it.
Study 9/11, absorb information about how it happened and why.How a madman got emergency warmaking powers and people didn’t stop it.
I’d like to end with William Arkin’s quote:
“Though 9/11truth.org and the blogosphere continues to rail against the mainstream media for ignoring their issue and their cause, the only gratifying element of the story is the restraint so far shown by the media in ignoring the thinly masked craziness and the Internet hype.”
”...the only gratifying element of the story is the restraint so far shown by the media in ignoring the thinly masked craziness and the Internet hype.”
Thats right my freinds, Arkin is gratified that 9/11 doesn’t receive media.
As much as that angers you, go to his article and see how he got pwned by 9/11 truthers. The movement is real and not internet hype. We have no newsletter, no fund raising, and no talking points. The truth is obvious and that is why there are so many of us. The lies of the 9/11 commission report were so blatant that 40% of United Statesians want a new investigation. We are so decentralized we don’t even know eachother’s real names, but the funny thing is we’re going to win despite the fact we have ABSOLUTELY NO FORMAL organization.
“ridiculed, violently opposed, accepted”
Let’s assume that all four flights were in fact hijacked. Then the hijackers piloted the planes for use as missiles. Also that everyone on those flights died when the planes crashed.
The following 2 simple strings of logic and conclusion is based on an assumption that this is true: Some of the people the FBI identified as the hijackers on 911 are still alive
The purpose of the assumption is to eliminate debate or concern over the credibility of the article (which has been corroborated on MSNBC). Instead focus exclusively on what this would mean.
1.(First String):The FBI release of the 19 hijacker’s pictures and names.
A. Self-evident truth~Everyone on those 4 flights on 9/11/01 died.
B. Assumed truth~ Multiple alleged hijackers are alive.
C. Conclusion~ these individuals were not on those hijacked planes.
-[Implications]-So the FBI either:1. Completely made shit up and fabricated at least 3 names on the list.
or
2. Actually thought the list was right and fucked up the investigation of the most important event in post cold-war history. (Neither are good implications)
-[Pre-empt]-Some kind of fake ID screw up:The fake ID arg is flawed it might have a chance of working at check in but that is it. 1. Under an FBI investigation they should be able to figure out whose identity was faked, especially for such a huge event as this.2. Video footage from the airport would show a different person3. If it was some kind of honest screw up, someone from the commission or the capitol should let the truth be known.
(Second String):The 911 commission report
A. Fact~The report has very precise details concerning the movements of the 19 hijackers that were identified by the FBI.
B. Conclusion from above(1C)~Alleged Hijackers that are alive were not on planes.
C. Conclusion~1. Either the 911 report used terrible evidence to investigate the attacks and think the 19 individuals are the hijackers and thusly are all dead.
or
2. This is an intentional fabrication of truth.
(Conclusion[the point]): This is a large and important portion of the 911 report that we have to accept as lies if we assume the articles are true.
This is not just a fact left out; this is a blatant fabrication and outright lie. This destroys the entire credibility of the report.
It also raises a great deal of questions that need to be adequately addressed. Or there needs to be investigation in to the credibility of
There still hasn’t been a retraction.
We do need to find out EVERYONE who was complicit in 911. We need to know The Truth of how it happened so we can prevent another.
And yes I do still care about it even though it was 4 years ago.
And what can it hurt to put together an independent investigation?All that can happen is we can weed out a few inaccuracies and find a few new truths.
The following 2 simple strings of logic and conclusion is based on an assumption that this is true: Some of the people the FBI identified as the hijackers on 911 are still alive
The purpose of the assumption is to eliminate debate or concern over the credibility of the article (which has been corroborated on MSNBC). Instead focus exclusively on what this would mean.
1.(First String):The FBI release of the 19 hijacker’s pictures and names.
A. Self-evident truth~Everyone on those 4 flights on 9/11/01 died.
B. Assumed truth~ Multiple alleged hijackers are alive.
C. Conclusion~ these individuals were not on those hijacked planes.
-[Implications]-So the FBI either:1. Completely made shit up and fabricated at least 3 names on the list.
or
2. Actually thought the list was right and fucked up the investigation of the most important event in post cold-war history. (Neither are good implications)
-[Pre-empt]-Some kind of fake ID screw up:The fake ID arg is flawed it might have a chance of working at check in but that is it. 1. Under an FBI investigation they should be able to figure out whose identity was faked, especially for such a huge event as this.2. Video footage from the airport would show a different person3. If it was some kind of honest screw up, someone from the commission or the capitol should let the truth be known.
(Second String):The 911 commission report
A. Fact~The report has very precise details concerning the movements of the 19 hijackers that were identified by the FBI.
B. Conclusion from above(1C)~Alleged Hijackers that are alive were not on planes.
C. Conclusion~1. Either the 911 report used terrible evidence to investigate the attacks and think the 19 individuals are the hijackers and thusly are all dead.
or
2. This is an intentional fabrication of truth.
(Conclusion[the point]): This is a large and important portion of the 911 report that we have to accept as lies if we assume the articles are true.
This is not just a fact left out; this is a blatant fabrication and outright lie. This destroys the entire credibility of the report.
It also raises a great deal of questions that need to be adequately addressed. Or there needs to be investigation in to the credibility of
There still hasn’t been a retraction.
We do need to find out EVERYONE who was complicit in 911. We need to know The Truth of how it happened so we can prevent another.
And yes I do still care about it even though it was 4 years ago.
And what can it hurt to put together an independent investigation?All that can happen is we can weed out a few inaccuracies and find a few new truths.
Saturday, July 02, 2005
Truths of 911(simple,verifiable, and well-known)
40% New Yorkers Believe U.S. Leaders Had
Foreknowledge of Impending 9/11 Attacks, Survey:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/083004_zogby_poll.shtml
&row=2
Start with an interview of an individual working with Carter and Brezinzki in 78/79 when funding to the Mujahaden or what will later be called Al-Qaeda started: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/interviews/episode-20/krakowski1.html
Intelligence agencies WOULD kill innocents to justify war: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Now the most important acticles:
1. Atta funded by ISI
Leader of The Pakistani ISI(military intelligence) wired the lead hijacker Mohammed Atta $100,000 to fund the 9/11 attacks. This leader General Mahmud Ahmed then resigned after this was discovered by the media. Atta later returned the unused portion of the money back to a bank account: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/107432.cms
Cnn corroboration of facts: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/01/inv.pakistan.funds/
ISI is how funding was funneled to Mujahadeen in Soviet-Afghani war and the ISI created the Taliban to ease geopolitical tensions over a possible pashtoonistan. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/ READ ALL THESE, they are packed with important info!!!!
Pakistan Provided Millions of Dollars, Arms,
and "Buses Full of Adolescent Mujahid"
to the Taliban in the 1990's: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/index4.htm
Short history of the ISI: http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper287.html
2. White house protection because of foreknowledge or special treatment of Saudis?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html
the White house refused to let the FBI investigate two Bin Ladens living in Falls Church Va(conincidentaly close to the location of CIA headquarters)before 911.
These individuals were connected to the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, a terrorist fundraiser.They share the name/blood of a famous terrorist, after the August 6th memo that the president recieved "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S." Any person would start with them, why did the white house stop the investigation?
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=2
3. War Games. Paralyzed defense grid?
On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Building. So this was not an unexpected assymetrical warfare tactic, as was claimed later, by the likes of Condi "Chevron" Rice. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm
Why so few planes in the northeast? How can a plane fly ALL THEY WAY ACROSS WEST VIRGINIA WITH ITS TRANSPONDER PULLED MAKING IT STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, AND FLY IN TO THE SUPPOSEDLY MOST SECURE AIRSPACE IN THE WORLD, WITHOUT HAVING A SINGLE PLANE SCRAMBLED TO ESCORT IT!!!!????? Who the hell knows...we do.
http://www.norad.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.news_rel_09_09_01
Foreknowledge of Impending 9/11 Attacks, Survey:
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/083004_zogby_poll.shtml
&row=2
Start with an interview of an individual working with Carter and Brezinzki in 78/79 when funding to the Mujahaden or what will later be called Al-Qaeda started: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/coldwar/interviews/episode-20/krakowski1.html
Intelligence agencies WOULD kill innocents to justify war: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/
Now the most important acticles:
1. Atta funded by ISI
Leader of The Pakistani ISI(military intelligence) wired the lead hijacker Mohammed Atta $100,000 to fund the 9/11 attacks. This leader General Mahmud Ahmed then resigned after this was discovered by the media. Atta later returned the unused portion of the money back to a bank account: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/107432.cms
Cnn corroboration of facts: http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/01/inv.pakistan.funds/
ISI is how funding was funneled to Mujahadeen in Soviet-Afghani war and the ISI created the Taliban to ease geopolitical tensions over a possible pashtoonistan. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB57/ READ ALL THESE, they are packed with important info!!!!
Pakistan Provided Millions of Dollars, Arms,
and "Buses Full of Adolescent Mujahid"
to the Taliban in the 1990's: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB97/index4.htm
Short history of the ISI: http://www.saag.org/papers3/paper287.html
2. White house protection because of foreknowledge or special treatment of Saudis?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/waronterror/story/0,1361,584444,00.html
the White house refused to let the FBI investigate two Bin Ladens living in Falls Church Va(conincidentaly close to the location of CIA headquarters)before 911.
These individuals were connected to the World Assembly of Muslim Youth, a terrorist fundraiser.They share the name/blood of a famous terrorist, after the August 6th memo that the president recieved "Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S." Any person would start with them, why did the white house stop the investigation?
http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=103&row=2
3. War Games. Paralyzed defense grid?
On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Building. So this was not an unexpected assymetrical warfare tactic, as was claimed later, by the likes of Condi "Chevron" Rice. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm
Why so few planes in the northeast? How can a plane fly ALL THEY WAY ACROSS WEST VIRGINIA WITH ITS TRANSPONDER PULLED MAKING IT STICK OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, AND FLY IN TO THE SUPPOSEDLY MOST SECURE AIRSPACE IN THE WORLD, WITHOUT HAVING A SINGLE PLANE SCRAMBLED TO ESCORT IT!!!!????? Who the hell knows...we do.
http://www.norad.mil/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.news_rel_09_09_01
Thursday, December 09, 2004
Dick Cheney responsible for 9/11?
Michael C. Ruppert has done it again. He has unearthed some very interesting research pertaining to Rudy Guiliani's testimony to the Kean commission. More importantly a source(Arias)(whos brother was killed in the second tower that was hit) came forward and told him that there were multiple war games THAT DAY. They were overseen by Cheney and one was MULITPLE HIJACKINGS IN THE NORTHEAST OF THE COUNTRY!
Now I finally understand why they didn't scramble fighters. He also says he couldn't get a comment out of anyone about the $100,000 wired to Mohammed Atta by ISI chief Gen. Mahmud.
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix7_911OmissionsHearings_111904.php
Click on Part III
I'm sure there is a link somewhere down the blog, but you can got to http://www.copvicia.com Once there just go to search and type "lucy". The article that comes up is called "Lucy you got a lotta 'splainin to do". That is the most comprehensive timeline of 9/11 that has yet been constructed in my opinion. The 911 truth movement has been going on for some time and hopefully more people will READ as time goes on. Thats the reason most people don't really beleive any of these factual happenings cited from mass media sources, they are outlandish when told to you and individuals just DON"T READ. Reminds of Marshall McLuhan and his Post Literate society critique. Thats why the 1st link above is easy, all yah gotta do is listen, no reading, so click, download, listen, and enjoy waking up.
I'm halfway done with "Crossing the Rubicon" Ruppert's (massive)book and HOLY SHIT is like all I can say over and over. Everywhere a skeptic like myself says "oh yah where is the cite" he has a footnote with very strong pieces of evidence. Some of the interviews he publishes and the articles he cites are just plain incredible, there is no doubt in my mind that the attacks on 9/11 at the very least were allowed to happen by the most powerful in the government and intelligence community and at the most: actively supplied with money and specific Wargames intel by ISI and US intelligence agencies respectively. I'm gonna do a review and breakdown of the book when I finish it, try to compile some of the best cites I gleaned from the book, if you are not indefinetly broke like myself I suggest yah purchase it.
-Jimothy J. Jones
Now I finally understand why they didn't scramble fighters. He also says he couldn't get a comment out of anyone about the $100,000 wired to Mohammed Atta by ISI chief Gen. Mahmud.
http://www.justicefor911.org/Appendix7_911OmissionsHearings_111904.php
Click on Part III
I'm sure there is a link somewhere down the blog, but you can got to http://www.copvicia.com Once there just go to search and type "lucy". The article that comes up is called "Lucy you got a lotta 'splainin to do". That is the most comprehensive timeline of 9/11 that has yet been constructed in my opinion. The 911 truth movement has been going on for some time and hopefully more people will READ as time goes on. Thats the reason most people don't really beleive any of these factual happenings cited from mass media sources, they are outlandish when told to you and individuals just DON"T READ. Reminds of Marshall McLuhan and his Post Literate society critique. Thats why the 1st link above is easy, all yah gotta do is listen, no reading, so click, download, listen, and enjoy waking up.
I'm halfway done with "Crossing the Rubicon" Ruppert's (massive)book and HOLY SHIT is like all I can say over and over. Everywhere a skeptic like myself says "oh yah where is the cite" he has a footnote with very strong pieces of evidence. Some of the interviews he publishes and the articles he cites are just plain incredible, there is no doubt in my mind that the attacks on 9/11 at the very least were allowed to happen by the most powerful in the government and intelligence community and at the most: actively supplied with money and specific Wargames intel by ISI and US intelligence agencies respectively. I'm gonna do a review and breakdown of the book when I finish it, try to compile some of the best cites I gleaned from the book, if you are not indefinetly broke like myself I suggest yah purchase it.
-Jimothy J. Jones
Tuesday, November 09, 2004
Authority Without Leadership
Wrote this in March so it is somewhat postdated, I think its a decent analysis of Terrorism and Iraq.
The world did not change on September 11th in one way, it did not get more dangerous to live in the United States. Despite the color of the threat status we have been under the same amount of threat since before September 11th. People learned right away that small groups of people could kill large amounts of people, modern technology can give individuals great power. This is a Type III situation the solution and the problem are blurry. First of all the federal government has never come up with a cohesive definition for what “Terrorism” actually is, every agency has a different definition. A solution to try to stop terrorism is impossible, technology being inert will be used for good or evil, nothing can stop this, because the genie is out of the bottle. The way to fight Terrorism in my opinion is eradicate the perpetuation by helping countries develop so young people can work for food instead of joining barracks and being manipulated by older authority figures to do violent acts.
George W. Bush’s presidency has been the most divisive of presidencies recently. His “compassionate conservative” PR flood stated he would unite the country. Instead the president has done many things wrong in handling this threat to the United States. The first mistake was the “Phoenix Memo” to Robert Mueller which was not read or at least not paid attention to by the leaders of the FBI. The memo claims Moussaoui has been training in flight school practicing flying, but never landing or taking off. The memo was ignored and the previous strategy for preventing airplanes from becoming hijacked failed on September 11th.
The president then framed the problem a lanky cave dweller on dialysis had orchestrated an offensive on United States soil. The answer was of course, war. The war on terrorism began in a mindset that Bush created, that this was a type I problem. The terrorists are easy to spot in Bush’s mind they dislike freedom and they hate liberty with a passion. In fact there is very little to “terrorists” except that they are the “bad guys” they’re just plain evil. The idea of “terrorists” is now used to justify any policy. For instance the United States is currently occupying a country that we invaded, because Bush insinuated links between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, even though this link is completely fictional and Bush as well as Rumsfeld have admitted that there is no link in press conferences.
This is important, because we as followers are not being asked to learn. Instead we are being inundated with false news reports and false war reports, all with one thing in mind to make us afraid. We are never asked by our leaders to remember the early 80s visit to Saddam Hussein where Donald Rumsfeld shook his hand and the US presented him with technology to test chemical weapons. To learn that we may share responsibility for the only viable reason in ousting this dictator, that he gassed his own citizens, this may cause learning our president does not want this. We are not asked to remember the Mujahedin or that Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, and that the United States abandoned Afghanistan after it served its purpose fighting off communists. In my opinion many of our modern threats can be traced to horrible foreign policy during the Cold War, this is because everyone was scared of Communism so they allied with Fascist leaders in other countries. I fear the same thing will happen with our treatment of “terrorists” we have not actually investigated our position. We do not truly know why someone would be motivated to give his life to destroy our country. I do know for a fact it is not because that person “hates liberty” or “our lifestyle” like the president says.
This is a type III problem but it is being framed by our leaders as a type I problem. Also the public is not being asked to learn, instead the public is asked by the media to duct tape the windows of their house in case of chemical weapons attack. The only learning our leaders want the public to do is learning where the closest Wal-Mart is and consuming. There is no outcome to this path, the only outcome is an endless “war on terrorism” or as Rumsfeld would call it “A long hard slog.” We need to understand that essentially this problem will never be fully stopped, this is a type III Problem. The answer does not lie in more bombing and ground troops, but through a period of learning and understanding the true motivations for terrorism. This is the most important facet of our war on terrorism, just like the war on drugs, this war is endless and pointless, because it will never stop terrorism.
A few key events since 9/11 have been the deployment of ground troops to Afghanistan, formation of Homeland Security department, invasion/occupation of Iraq, Guantanimo bay prison/internment camp, resisting the 9/11 commission, and the steady encroachment upon civil liberties beginning with the Patriot act.
The deployment of ground troops to Afghanistan was seen as an obvious response, basically a catch Osama task force. While we were deploying troops to catch a Bin Laden in Afghanistan the only flights to take off on 9/12 were those that flew Bin Laden relatives living in the United States to Washington, DC and then to Paris, France by the FBI, before they could be questioned. This story was not latched on to by the media, instead the media focused on our first kneejerk reaction which was the deployment to Afghanistan. These ground forces have been dying since they were deployed and Osama Bin Laden has still not been found. In this specific areas Bush failed to form any semblance of leadership. He framed the problem as finding the culprit, he regulated distress by assuring us that he would catch the criminal responsible, and focused our attention on the fact that we are under threat. The fact that simultaneously at this very moment and every moment since this paper was written, thousands of nuclear weapons have been pointed at you, your friends, and family. Although this threat is far more dangerous and real, our leaders have decided what they are focusing on. Bush has shifted responsibility, maybe not to stakeholders but to followers in the military. Bush has started a new PR blitz that claims the U.S. will find Osama Bin Laden soon. This is another example of regulating stress, people were starting to get tired of waiting for the person responsible for 9/11 so our leader held a press conference.
The formation of the Homeland Security department goes with the framing of the problem as a type I. The problem was lack of horizontal communication and in group/out group dynamics, so the simple answer is to combine all the agencies involved. This has now become the largest reorganization of the federal government in history. This action has given us a color coded threat level that is the mascot for the PR stupidity of our administration. Although the threat level was created to give comedians fodder during stand-up routines, it actually serves a purpose. It is very expensive to raise the threat level and puts things like the coast guard on a little higher alert. This is probably the closest to leadership George W. Bush gets. The homeland security department seems to increase communication and reduce the rivalry between group like the CIA and FBI. So it will help catch some attacks before they happen, like 9/11 should have been stopped because of the “Phoenix memo”.
The invasion of Iraq has also been a cornerstone of the Bush neo-conservative foreign policy. Since Bush’s election Paul Wolfowitz has been searching for a way to steer us in to war with Iraq. The opportunity presented itself in the form of thousands of Americans dying in the WTC and pentagon attacks. The problem was framed in a way that will seem so simply in hindsight in a few years idiotic. We brought up the usual suspects Saddam, Kim Jong Il, and Iran. This is where Bush’s foreign policy changes from not very smart, to catastrophically bad. The problem was framed that Iraq had chemical weapons that could not be found by the UN. Also the fact that Iraq had violated a UN code (in the opinion of the US) justified a pre-emptive invasion of Iraq, which itself violated two UN policies. The United States foreign policy has been led astray, the problem has been framed that “If you don’t get them first, they’ll get you.” If we follow Bush’s framing of the problem we can only win by destroying everything and everyone that isn’t American! The war’s justification changed as time has passed, we know there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction, we know that Saddam used technology from the US to build his chemical weapons in the first place, and now the only justification left is that Saddam is generally an evil person. Saddam is George W. Bush’s scapegoat, he is the proverbial deer strapped to the hood of the car, a trophy to show the public that he has done something.
The jailing of “enemy combatants” at Guantanimo bay Cuba is also another example of authority without leadership. Essentially Bush used a technicality in the Geneva convention and abused it on such a level to fill Gitmo detention center. As civil rights groups asked that the American citizens at least be able to contact a family member or attorney. Their families were not even allowed to know they were being held without trial by the United States government. To regulate distress the Bush administration assured America that these people were all terrorists, even though the only definition of terrorists Bush has given us is that they are people who “hate liberty”. This catch-22 worked out nicely and is even comical to read, because if terrorists hate liberty, we’re playing right in to their hands jailing them without trial. Recently the courts decided that Jose Padilla can see a lawyer and talk to his family, which opened the doors for other U.S. citizens being held at Gitmo to finally receive some sort of justice. The Bush administration focuses attention away from Guantanimo bay, because logically everyone makes mistakes many people in Gitmo are innocent and deserve a trial to determine their innocence.
Another example of the poor leadership being displayed is the encroachment on constitutional rights and resistance to the 9/11 commission. The Patriot act made it easier for law enforcement to do a lot of things, but the most important was invade privacy. There is a easier brightline to establish the need for a warrant to tap phones, although these rights have seen a slow encroachment as technology has advanced the mass fear has catalyzed this process.
The leadership President Bush is displaying is very weak. He refuses to deal with Terrorism as a type III problem. He instead will be fighting the symptoms of Terrorism for ever, because he does not frame the problem in the right way.
Terrorism will be here after Bush’s presidency no matter what. The things we will remember are the two wars we are simultaneously fighting overseas, while installing a non-elected leadership council in Iraq, and suspending habeas corpus for American prisoners. Framing the problem as a type I and using fear to build political capital is horrible leadership.
I hope that the United States comes to its senses and the wild rage that has taken hold after 9/11 turns in to a spirit of inquisition. Killing terrorists as we catch them or locking them up and throwing away the key in Cuba are not viable strategies. Only through investigation and understanding of how terrorists are created can we hope to reduce the threat of terrorist attack in the future. Until then I will be ever cognizant of the thousands of nuclear missiles pointed at my head and remember that terrorism is really nothing new.
Bibliography
Rowley, Colleen. “Coleen Rowley’s memo to FBI director Robert Mueller” http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html May 21, 2002
Associated Press. “Pelosi pushes for new 9/11 deadline” New York Times Feb 26, 2004
Heifetz, Ronald. “Leadership without easy answers”
The world did not change on September 11th in one way, it did not get more dangerous to live in the United States. Despite the color of the threat status we have been under the same amount of threat since before September 11th. People learned right away that small groups of people could kill large amounts of people, modern technology can give individuals great power. This is a Type III situation the solution and the problem are blurry. First of all the federal government has never come up with a cohesive definition for what “Terrorism” actually is, every agency has a different definition. A solution to try to stop terrorism is impossible, technology being inert will be used for good or evil, nothing can stop this, because the genie is out of the bottle. The way to fight Terrorism in my opinion is eradicate the perpetuation by helping countries develop so young people can work for food instead of joining barracks and being manipulated by older authority figures to do violent acts.
George W. Bush’s presidency has been the most divisive of presidencies recently. His “compassionate conservative” PR flood stated he would unite the country. Instead the president has done many things wrong in handling this threat to the United States. The first mistake was the “Phoenix Memo” to Robert Mueller which was not read or at least not paid attention to by the leaders of the FBI. The memo claims Moussaoui has been training in flight school practicing flying, but never landing or taking off. The memo was ignored and the previous strategy for preventing airplanes from becoming hijacked failed on September 11th.
The president then framed the problem a lanky cave dweller on dialysis had orchestrated an offensive on United States soil. The answer was of course, war. The war on terrorism began in a mindset that Bush created, that this was a type I problem. The terrorists are easy to spot in Bush’s mind they dislike freedom and they hate liberty with a passion. In fact there is very little to “terrorists” except that they are the “bad guys” they’re just plain evil. The idea of “terrorists” is now used to justify any policy. For instance the United States is currently occupying a country that we invaded, because Bush insinuated links between 9/11 and Saddam Hussein, even though this link is completely fictional and Bush as well as Rumsfeld have admitted that there is no link in press conferences.
This is important, because we as followers are not being asked to learn. Instead we are being inundated with false news reports and false war reports, all with one thing in mind to make us afraid. We are never asked by our leaders to remember the early 80s visit to Saddam Hussein where Donald Rumsfeld shook his hand and the US presented him with technology to test chemical weapons. To learn that we may share responsibility for the only viable reason in ousting this dictator, that he gassed his own citizens, this may cause learning our president does not want this. We are not asked to remember the Mujahedin or that Bin Laden was trained by the CIA, and that the United States abandoned Afghanistan after it served its purpose fighting off communists. In my opinion many of our modern threats can be traced to horrible foreign policy during the Cold War, this is because everyone was scared of Communism so they allied with Fascist leaders in other countries. I fear the same thing will happen with our treatment of “terrorists” we have not actually investigated our position. We do not truly know why someone would be motivated to give his life to destroy our country. I do know for a fact it is not because that person “hates liberty” or “our lifestyle” like the president says.
This is a type III problem but it is being framed by our leaders as a type I problem. Also the public is not being asked to learn, instead the public is asked by the media to duct tape the windows of their house in case of chemical weapons attack. The only learning our leaders want the public to do is learning where the closest Wal-Mart is and consuming. There is no outcome to this path, the only outcome is an endless “war on terrorism” or as Rumsfeld would call it “A long hard slog.” We need to understand that essentially this problem will never be fully stopped, this is a type III Problem. The answer does not lie in more bombing and ground troops, but through a period of learning and understanding the true motivations for terrorism. This is the most important facet of our war on terrorism, just like the war on drugs, this war is endless and pointless, because it will never stop terrorism.
A few key events since 9/11 have been the deployment of ground troops to Afghanistan, formation of Homeland Security department, invasion/occupation of Iraq, Guantanimo bay prison/internment camp, resisting the 9/11 commission, and the steady encroachment upon civil liberties beginning with the Patriot act.
The deployment of ground troops to Afghanistan was seen as an obvious response, basically a catch Osama task force. While we were deploying troops to catch a Bin Laden in Afghanistan the only flights to take off on 9/12 were those that flew Bin Laden relatives living in the United States to Washington, DC and then to Paris, France by the FBI, before they could be questioned. This story was not latched on to by the media, instead the media focused on our first kneejerk reaction which was the deployment to Afghanistan. These ground forces have been dying since they were deployed and Osama Bin Laden has still not been found. In this specific areas Bush failed to form any semblance of leadership. He framed the problem as finding the culprit, he regulated distress by assuring us that he would catch the criminal responsible, and focused our attention on the fact that we are under threat. The fact that simultaneously at this very moment and every moment since this paper was written, thousands of nuclear weapons have been pointed at you, your friends, and family. Although this threat is far more dangerous and real, our leaders have decided what they are focusing on. Bush has shifted responsibility, maybe not to stakeholders but to followers in the military. Bush has started a new PR blitz that claims the U.S. will find Osama Bin Laden soon. This is another example of regulating stress, people were starting to get tired of waiting for the person responsible for 9/11 so our leader held a press conference.
The formation of the Homeland Security department goes with the framing of the problem as a type I. The problem was lack of horizontal communication and in group/out group dynamics, so the simple answer is to combine all the agencies involved. This has now become the largest reorganization of the federal government in history. This action has given us a color coded threat level that is the mascot for the PR stupidity of our administration. Although the threat level was created to give comedians fodder during stand-up routines, it actually serves a purpose. It is very expensive to raise the threat level and puts things like the coast guard on a little higher alert. This is probably the closest to leadership George W. Bush gets. The homeland security department seems to increase communication and reduce the rivalry between group like the CIA and FBI. So it will help catch some attacks before they happen, like 9/11 should have been stopped because of the “Phoenix memo”.
The invasion of Iraq has also been a cornerstone of the Bush neo-conservative foreign policy. Since Bush’s election Paul Wolfowitz has been searching for a way to steer us in to war with Iraq. The opportunity presented itself in the form of thousands of Americans dying in the WTC and pentagon attacks. The problem was framed in a way that will seem so simply in hindsight in a few years idiotic. We brought up the usual suspects Saddam, Kim Jong Il, and Iran. This is where Bush’s foreign policy changes from not very smart, to catastrophically bad. The problem was framed that Iraq had chemical weapons that could not be found by the UN. Also the fact that Iraq had violated a UN code (in the opinion of the US) justified a pre-emptive invasion of Iraq, which itself violated two UN policies. The United States foreign policy has been led astray, the problem has been framed that “If you don’t get them first, they’ll get you.” If we follow Bush’s framing of the problem we can only win by destroying everything and everyone that isn’t American! The war’s justification changed as time has passed, we know there are no Weapons of Mass Destruction, we know that Saddam used technology from the US to build his chemical weapons in the first place, and now the only justification left is that Saddam is generally an evil person. Saddam is George W. Bush’s scapegoat, he is the proverbial deer strapped to the hood of the car, a trophy to show the public that he has done something.
The jailing of “enemy combatants” at Guantanimo bay Cuba is also another example of authority without leadership. Essentially Bush used a technicality in the Geneva convention and abused it on such a level to fill Gitmo detention center. As civil rights groups asked that the American citizens at least be able to contact a family member or attorney. Their families were not even allowed to know they were being held without trial by the United States government. To regulate distress the Bush administration assured America that these people were all terrorists, even though the only definition of terrorists Bush has given us is that they are people who “hate liberty”. This catch-22 worked out nicely and is even comical to read, because if terrorists hate liberty, we’re playing right in to their hands jailing them without trial. Recently the courts decided that Jose Padilla can see a lawyer and talk to his family, which opened the doors for other U.S. citizens being held at Gitmo to finally receive some sort of justice. The Bush administration focuses attention away from Guantanimo bay, because logically everyone makes mistakes many people in Gitmo are innocent and deserve a trial to determine their innocence.
Another example of the poor leadership being displayed is the encroachment on constitutional rights and resistance to the 9/11 commission. The Patriot act made it easier for law enforcement to do a lot of things, but the most important was invade privacy. There is a easier brightline to establish the need for a warrant to tap phones, although these rights have seen a slow encroachment as technology has advanced the mass fear has catalyzed this process.
The leadership President Bush is displaying is very weak. He refuses to deal with Terrorism as a type III problem. He instead will be fighting the symptoms of Terrorism for ever, because he does not frame the problem in the right way.
Terrorism will be here after Bush’s presidency no matter what. The things we will remember are the two wars we are simultaneously fighting overseas, while installing a non-elected leadership council in Iraq, and suspending habeas corpus for American prisoners. Framing the problem as a type I and using fear to build political capital is horrible leadership.
I hope that the United States comes to its senses and the wild rage that has taken hold after 9/11 turns in to a spirit of inquisition. Killing terrorists as we catch them or locking them up and throwing away the key in Cuba are not viable strategies. Only through investigation and understanding of how terrorists are created can we hope to reduce the threat of terrorist attack in the future. Until then I will be ever cognizant of the thousands of nuclear missiles pointed at my head and remember that terrorism is really nothing new.
Bibliography
Rowley, Colleen. “Coleen Rowley’s memo to FBI director Robert Mueller” http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101020603/memo.html May 21, 2002
Associated Press. “Pelosi pushes for new 9/11 deadline” New York Times Feb 26, 2004
Heifetz, Ronald. “Leadership without easy answers”
Sunday, August 29, 2004
three times as many arrests at RNC than DNC already
I heard on the 27th of August(on fox news haha) before the convention had even started that at the RNC there were three times as many arrests as the entire DNC.
Protestors were not allowed to use central park said a judge.
And everyone's favorite proof that democracy and the bill of rights exist today: Free-speech Zones. Those aesthetically beautiful internment camps for protestors.
I have been reading and found evidence of CIA foreknowledge of 9/11 and the insider stock trading on the parent company of UAL and American Airlines.
Again I do not wholeheartedly believe this story, I just draw conclusions from the evidence. The conclusions are debated, but the evidence doesn't lie You should check it out yourself though at: http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/
and http://www.copvcia.com (Michael C. Ruppert 's site, great researching and journalism) This man is sometimes called a conspiracy theorist, but anyone who knows Iran-Contra knows it ain't no conspiracy about CIA drug involvement. His line of reasoning on 9/11 is harder to swallow, but one can't argue with the massive amounts of evidence from credible mass media sources) Also http://www.gregpalast.com
So don't listen to my bullshit, read up and leave some postings on my site about your arguments for and against the idea of CIA foreknowledge and the Insider stock trading. I would love to hear many people's opinions on this subject(but only if people actually read some of the documents haha)
If you really dont' like reading, go download Bit Torrent and paste this link in yer browser:
66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2035/The%20Truth%20and%20Lies%20of%20911%20Updated.xvid.avi-mpg.torrent
Unless all of the people in the United States have a firm grip on what reality actually is by reading history and researching, then a representative democracy cannot function, because we will never solve our problems.
-Jimothy J. Jones
"Drop dead, it doesn?t matter," she said
"It only hurts when I laugh," she said
"Sometimes it?s never a crime
"To spend the day in bed"
She made certain that the curtains were red
To dream better by the light they would shed
She leaned back, tilted her head
And this is what she said?
"You can?t win; think it over again
"I can?t win; look at the trouble I?m in
"We can?t win and we?re stuck here together
"Yeah, I hope it will last forever."
"Don?t ever dare to hope," he said
"So I?m never let down too bad
"I know there?s nowhere to go
"So I?ll just stay here, instead"
He knew better than to pull at a thread
They unravel like the thoughts in his head
He looked out; it filled him with dread
And this is what he said?
[Chorus]
With good looks and books on their side
And hearts bursting with national pride
They sang songs and went along for the ride
And the other side complied
They said, "ey, man, where do you reside?
"And could it be mother?s superior lied?
"And is it possible too many have died?"
It?s only natural to reply
-Bad Religion "Boot stamping on a human face forever"
"empty factories to the east and all our waste the shape of things that came shows on the broken workers face to the west you'll find our silicon promised lands where machines replace our minds for systematic profit plans the course of human progress staggers like a drunk it's steps are quick and heavy and its mind is slow and blunt i look for optimism but i just don't know it's seeds are planted in a poison place where nothing grows it's 1989 stand up and take a look around weathers bitter tension it seems is sinking down drunk with power and fighting one another every hour shows the winter getting harder theres a freezeup coming one nation stands the tallest radiating blinding light plastic and fluorescent energy robbing us of sight set in our way content with our decay we wave the flag of freedom as we conquer and invade ever ask yrself wheres my place in this hell but no ones there to tell you cuz they don't know that themselves the well rehearsed lines from our elated politicians no longer offer solace we can see the self destruction just one political song to drop into the list that is years and years long"
-Operation Ivy "Freeze Up"
"The main attraction - distraction
got ya number than nnumber than numb
Empty ya pockets son; they got you thinkin that
What ya need is what they sellin
Make you think that buyin is rebellin
From the theaters to malls on every shore
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
The frontline is everywhere, there be no shelter here
Speilberg the nightmare works so push it far
Amistad was a whip, the truth was feathered and tarred
Memory erased, burned and scarred
Trade in ya history for a VCR
Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
There be no shelter here
Tha frontline is everywhere
Hospitals not profit full
Yet market bulls got pockets full
To advertise some hip disguise
View tha world from American eyes
Tha poor adore keep fiendin for more
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
They fix the need, develop the taste
Buy their products or get laid to waste
Coca-Cola is back in the veins of Saigon
And Rambo too, he got a dope pair of Nikes on
And Godzilla pure muthafuckin filler
To keep ya eyes off the real killer
Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
American eyes, American eyes....
View the world from American eyes
Bury the past, rob us blind
And leave nothin behind
Just stare
Relive the nightmare."
-Rage Against the Machine "No Shelter"
Protestors were not allowed to use central park said a judge.
And everyone's favorite proof that democracy and the bill of rights exist today: Free-speech Zones. Those aesthetically beautiful internment camps for protestors.
I have been reading and found evidence of CIA foreknowledge of 9/11 and the insider stock trading on the parent company of UAL and American Airlines.
Again I do not wholeheartedly believe this story, I just draw conclusions from the evidence. The conclusions are debated, but the evidence doesn't lie You should check it out yourself though at: http://www.gwu.edu/%7Ensarchiv/
and http://www.copvcia.com (Michael C. Ruppert 's site, great researching and journalism) This man is sometimes called a conspiracy theorist, but anyone who knows Iran-Contra knows it ain't no conspiracy about CIA drug involvement. His line of reasoning on 9/11 is harder to swallow, but one can't argue with the massive amounts of evidence from credible mass media sources) Also http://www.gregpalast.com
So don't listen to my bullshit, read up and leave some postings on my site about your arguments for and against the idea of CIA foreknowledge and the Insider stock trading. I would love to hear many people's opinions on this subject(but only if people actually read some of the documents haha)
If you really dont' like reading, go download Bit Torrent and paste this link in yer browser:
66.90.75.92/suprnova/torrents/2035/The%20Truth%20and%20Lies%20of%20911%20Updated.xvid.avi-mpg.torrent
Unless all of the people in the United States have a firm grip on what reality actually is by reading history and researching, then a representative democracy cannot function, because we will never solve our problems.
-Jimothy J. Jones
"Drop dead, it doesn?t matter," she said
"It only hurts when I laugh," she said
"Sometimes it?s never a crime
"To spend the day in bed"
She made certain that the curtains were red
To dream better by the light they would shed
She leaned back, tilted her head
And this is what she said?
"You can?t win; think it over again
"I can?t win; look at the trouble I?m in
"We can?t win and we?re stuck here together
"Yeah, I hope it will last forever."
"Don?t ever dare to hope," he said
"So I?m never let down too bad
"I know there?s nowhere to go
"So I?ll just stay here, instead"
He knew better than to pull at a thread
They unravel like the thoughts in his head
He looked out; it filled him with dread
And this is what he said?
[Chorus]
With good looks and books on their side
And hearts bursting with national pride
They sang songs and went along for the ride
And the other side complied
They said, "ey, man, where do you reside?
"And could it be mother?s superior lied?
"And is it possible too many have died?"
It?s only natural to reply
-Bad Religion "Boot stamping on a human face forever"
"empty factories to the east and all our waste the shape of things that came shows on the broken workers face to the west you'll find our silicon promised lands where machines replace our minds for systematic profit plans the course of human progress staggers like a drunk it's steps are quick and heavy and its mind is slow and blunt i look for optimism but i just don't know it's seeds are planted in a poison place where nothing grows it's 1989 stand up and take a look around weathers bitter tension it seems is sinking down drunk with power and fighting one another every hour shows the winter getting harder theres a freezeup coming one nation stands the tallest radiating blinding light plastic and fluorescent energy robbing us of sight set in our way content with our decay we wave the flag of freedom as we conquer and invade ever ask yrself wheres my place in this hell but no ones there to tell you cuz they don't know that themselves the well rehearsed lines from our elated politicians no longer offer solace we can see the self destruction just one political song to drop into the list that is years and years long"
-Operation Ivy "Freeze Up"
"The main attraction - distraction
got ya number than nnumber than numb
Empty ya pockets son; they got you thinkin that
What ya need is what they sellin
Make you think that buyin is rebellin
From the theaters to malls on every shore
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
The frontline is everywhere, there be no shelter here
Speilberg the nightmare works so push it far
Amistad was a whip, the truth was feathered and tarred
Memory erased, burned and scarred
Trade in ya history for a VCR
Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
There be no shelter here
Tha frontline is everywhere
Hospitals not profit full
Yet market bulls got pockets full
To advertise some hip disguise
View tha world from American eyes
Tha poor adore keep fiendin for more
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
They fix the need, develop the taste
Buy their products or get laid to waste
Coca-Cola is back in the veins of Saigon
And Rambo too, he got a dope pair of Nikes on
And Godzilla pure muthafuckin filler
To keep ya eyes off the real killer
Cinema, simulated life, ill drama
Fourth Reich culture - Americana
Chained to the dream they got ya searchin for
Tha thin line between entertainment and war
American eyes, American eyes....
View the world from American eyes
Bury the past, rob us blind
And leave nothin behind
Just stare
Relive the nightmare."
-Rage Against the Machine "No Shelter"
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